VV-XI SLOW SPEED
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- Victor Jr
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VV-XI SLOW SPEED
I have a 1919 VV-XI. I can't get more than 65rpm with the speed control wide open? What could my problem be?
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- Victor Monarch Special
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Re: VV-XI SLOW SPEED
Follow the speed control rod back toward the motor. There should be a place to adjust the rod. As a last resort you can move the governor on the governor shaft after making sure the motor has completely run down.
Jerry B.
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Re: VV-XI SLOW SPEED
Maybe the speed control (I can’t remember the name of the part that touches the governor not the pads) needs some oil because that part can be frozen. My VV-111 was like this when I got it but oiling and freeing up that part got the speed control working again.
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- Make sure this part is freely moving back and forth
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- Victor IV
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Re: VV-XI SLOW SPEED
If it is a 1919 machine, it should have a Burton motor which is designed for quick assembly with no adjustment needed except for governor shaft end play. In this motor the governor shaft has a hole drilled into it to receive the setscrew which holds the fixed end of the governor in the proper position on the shaft for optimun worm gear position and speed range. That shouldn't be out of adjustment unless someone assembled it without regard for proper positioning. Likewise, the governor end bearings are two slightly different lengths and one of them has a ring machined into the circumference for locating purposes. IIRC, the one with the ring goes on the thrust end of the shaft, which I think is the flywheel end of the governor but I am not sure of that without looking at one. This serves to properly locate the governor shaft when the motor is running because as the spindle gear turns the worm on the governor shaft, it also pushes and seats it firmly into the bearing. If someone reassembled the motor without giving attention to these adjustments, the governor could be positioned too far in one direction or the other, making speed adjustment impossible. Also, as someone previously mentioned, the speed control rod could have been bent, or it could be improperly locked into the collar. Both rods have dimples in them where they slide into the collar and the setscrews should go down into the dimples to position the rods properly.
Hope this helps.
Jim
Hope this helps.
Jim
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- Victor Jr
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Re: VV-XI SLOW SPEED
I am pretty sure I bought the wrong year motor for my 1919. I looked at a picture of the Burton motor for that year and my governor is slanted and the correct one looks like it should not be slanted but straight or level.
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Re: VV-XI SLOW SPEED
Does the replacement motor share the same crank hole in the cabinet as the previous motor? How about the mounting holes in the motor board?I am pretty sure I bought the wrong year motor for my 1919. I looked at a picture of the Burton motor for that year and my governor is slanted and the correct one looks like it should not be slanted but straight or level.
Jerry B.
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Re: VV-XI SLOW SPEED
Everything I said applies to the Burton motor and not to the earlier motor styles. I doubt that your motor will be a proper fit in your Victrola based on the location of motor mounting holes and crank hole plus a few other factors. However, if your motor does fits properly into your Victrola, you may be able to tinker with the various adjustments and bring the speed within the proper range. Please post some photos to give us a better idea of what you have.
Jim
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Re: VV-XI SLOW SPEED
The motor was already mounted on the board which fit in my player. However I noticed the crank hole did not line up which I did move the hole to make it line up. I then refinished the player and it does play but it plays at 65 rpm at best. I have tried adjusting the governor in several ways. I am mechanically inclined etc but new to this.
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Re: VV-XI SLOW SPEED
mystangblue94,
You really haven't given us much to go on. As Jim suggested, a few photos would help us to help you. It could be linkage issues between the speed control knob and the governor as Jerry suggested initially, or the governor springs may have been replaced with incorrect parts, or it might be something else.
Without some decent photos of the motor, you will not get many more suggestions from the many experts here, and what you will get are just guesses.
You really haven't given us much to go on. As Jim suggested, a few photos would help us to help you. It could be linkage issues between the speed control knob and the governor as Jerry suggested initially, or the governor springs may have been replaced with incorrect parts, or it might be something else.
Without some decent photos of the motor, you will not get many more suggestions from the many experts here, and what you will get are just guesses.

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Re: VV-XI SLOW SPEED
You probably have a round dial type of speed control. The control itself is adjustable.
Jim
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