FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box SOLD
-
toysbyroy
- Victor I
- Posts: 168
- Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:34 pm
- Location: Norman, Oklahoma
FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box SOLD
Price reduction: This is an Exhibition Reproducer (gramophone London, Berlin, Paris) # 558041. It has the round needle hole and comes with the original box. It has been rebuilt, tuned and tested. Sounds great! Note: the threads for the needle thumbscrew has been widened. See pics for details. Thanks, Roy
Last edited by toysbyroy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:11 pm, edited 3 times in total.
-
brianu
- Victor V
- Posts: 2165
- Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:35 pm
- Personal Text: on instagram as "oncedeadsound"
- Location: just outside Philadelphia, PA
Re: FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box $1
Come on. How can this be considered “rebuilt, tuned and tested” if it doesn’t even have a thumbscrew to secure the needle in place - because the hole has apparently been redrilled and widened?
- mattrx
- Victor IV
- Posts: 1168
- Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:55 am
- Location: Bartlett, TN
Re: FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box $1
Accidentally double posted. Can’t delete.
Last edited by mattrx on Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- mattrx
- Victor IV
- Posts: 1168
- Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:55 am
- Location: Bartlett, TN
Re: FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box $1
Shouldn’t the nuts be knurled? Where is the thumb screw that fits this? I’d be more interested if these questions were answered.
Matt
Matt
- Curt A
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 6884
- Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:32 pm
- Personal Text: Needle Tins are Addictive
- Location: Belmont, North Carolina
Re: FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box $1
You can't really consider this to be an early "round hole" reproducer anymore, since the needle chuck is ruined. Finding a loose round hole needle bar is going to be a challenge and if you use a later needle bar it won't be round hole, either... Fixing the original needle bar is going to be challenging, if even possible, to fill and re-tap that large hole...
"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
-
toysbyroy
- Victor I
- Posts: 168
- Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:34 pm
- Location: Norman, Oklahoma
Re: FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box $1
Whoever drilled out the thumbscrew hole, replaced it with a screw. I used the screw to test and it sounded very good. It's unfortunate that someone did this, I admit. However, I believe it can be corrected.
- Curt A
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 6884
- Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:32 pm
- Personal Text: Needle Tins are Addictive
- Location: Belmont, North Carolina
Re: FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box $1
Any ideas on how you would correct it?toysbyroy wrote:Whoever drilled out the thumbscrew hole, replaced it with a screw. I used the screw to test and it sounded very good. It's unfortunate that someone did this, I admit. However, I believe it can be corrected.
"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
- fmblizz
- Victor IV
- Posts: 1208
- Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:59 pm
- Location: South Jersey
Re: FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box $1
possibly fill the hole and re-drill and tap it to the proper size threads.
blizz
blizz
-
phonojim
- Victor IV
- Posts: 1478
- Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 8:20 pm
- Location: Mid - Michigan
Re: FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box $1
It's a shame that they made such a mess of that hole. One thing I would consider is to silver solder a brass rod into the hole and fill any gaps with silver solder as well, while being careful to keep any material out of the needle socket. Dress and polish the outer face of the chuck and drill and tap the setscrew hole. Chemically blacken or paint the chuck and you're done. I recently repaired a broken hinge block hole in a brass-bodied model C reproducer in a similar way. The hinge block pin had been drilled out badly, leaving an oversized hole. I cleaned the brass, filled the hole with 60/40 solder then drilled and tapped an 0-80 thread. I was not completely sure how well the soft solder would work, but it it is a low stress application and it works very well. However, in this case soft solder would not stand up to the stress for any length of time.
Jim
Jim
-
JerryVan
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 6748
- Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:08 pm
- Location: Southeast MI
Re: FOR SALE: Early Exhibition w/ Round Hole/Original Box $1
Jim is correct, it can be fixed, but it would take a lot of effort. The leaf springs being forced all the way down, as well as the gap on one side, between the needle bar & pivot, are also disconcerting. I believe the OP meant well, but maybe needs a little more experience with these.