HMV 100 (in Teak)

[SPOONMAN19]

Hi all, hope you're all well.

So was sent the following set of snaps. At first glance it looked like a HMV 100. But from the snaps the size looks off to me - as in it looks like the size of a colonial 112 / 114 case. Unless its just the perspective that's confusing me. I have asked for more snaps

And Dave's book mentions no such variant. But then again the Calcutta factory did all sorts of experiments!

What do you guys think?

[soundgen]

Nice find ! as you say they did a lot of odd things in Dum Dum but it is correct , the No 4 soundbox is probably a later addition ,and the carrying handle is a repair or a poor replacement , the base has to be deeper to use the 32 motor

[epigramophone]

The Indian factory produced double spring versions of the HMV100, 101 and 102 portables. This is a rare machine and well worth acquiring.

[SPOONMAN19]

Thank you Epi & Soundgen - much appreciated.

After posting I came across the post with the detailed back and forth on a similar machine by Teak in 2017 (subject: rare teak HMV 100).

It was interesting that there was some speculation on that discussion that such a machine could be a one-off. But now that we know there were at least two machines, it could be that this was a new model albeit only produced for India, Ceylon and Burma. Or was it advertised as a double spring version of 100?

One question I have is that if this predates the 102, 113 transportable etc ...then should it not be a front wind? Just like the normal sized 100s and the early 101s. And the fact that its a side-wind does indeed support the theory that the Calcutta factory found itself with surplus 112 cases and decided to do what it could do with them! And accordingly these came out long after the 101s and 102s? Anyway...that's enough thinking aloud from me!

Lastly I also vaguely recall reading a detailed post on how Teak's machine is a complete fake. I cant find that post anyome but despite the fact that I'm no expert...the guy sending me the snaps is actually a 100% honest broker who I've known for decades. And he states that this has been in an attic since the 1960s! So if it was a fake, it had to have been done then. Which, fair enough, is also possible!

[epigramophone]

The Model 118 of c1936, with it's unusual lengthways opening case, is the only machine I know of where the double spring No.32 motor winds from the front.

[Oedipus]

It looks perfectly genuine to me, as far as I can see in the photos. With a 32 motor in a deep case, there is no need for it to be front-wind (the 118 is another matter - it couldn't be side-wound, because with that layout the winder would have to go through the horn!). What I should like to know is whether it was given a model number, and if so, what?

[Teak]

The bigger mod 100 is perfectly genuine, I have one also:

The person, writing the post about it being fake pretended to be living in a grand pryceptory while living at his parents house.

[Steve]

Now deceased.

[Steve]

It's genuine and exceptionally rare. Where on earth did you find it? I have a 112, 113 and 114 but I'm still envious. As Oedipus has said, I wonder what the model number is? A 110?

[soundgen]

Hi all, hope you're all well.

So was sent the following set of snaps. At first glance it looked like a HMV 100. But from the snaps the size looks off to me - as in it looks like the size of a colonial 112 / 114 case. Unless its just the perspective that's confusing me. I have asked for more snaps

And Dave's book mentions no such variant. But then again the Calcutta factory did all sorts of experiments!

What do you guys think?

Have you acquired it ?