interesting Violin-Like Reproducer Horn combo

[zonophpones7]

I wanted to share an interesting Reproducer / Horn setup from my collection. It is reminiscent of the Le Palmodian Gramophone from France that uses a tuned violin as the reproducer and horn. The needle is on the bottom of the instrument and it causes it to vibrate and project the sound.

What I have is similar in design but is not an actual violin and does not have strings. It is much smaller, and it is made of carved maple and spruce with F holes on the top. There is an adjustable gutta percha post on the underside that fits onto and adjustable stand to allow use on different machines. It has the ability to hold the horn up to change the needle. There is a metal needle holder, and it also has a small grill on the end sound.

I have not been able to find any maker’s name or markings on it. It certainly seems to be commercially made. I also have not seen any documentation of it before or any ads for it.
I have it installed on a Zon-O-Phone parlor and it has a good proportion for this machine, and it works well with it. The sound is mellow and rich but lacks a bright high-end sound, as you would expect. I would consider this to be the most unique wooden horn for a phonograph that I have seen.

I had a particular interest in this as both of my daughters are Violinists. I would love documentation of this piece from anyone that can help. Copies of ads, other examples etc.
Gregg

[Jerry B.]

Wish I could help with your inquiry but I can't. But it sure is an interesting accessory.

Jerry B.

[edisonclassm]

Very cool piece Gregg. Thanks for sharing.

[Curt A]

I have seen the full violin models, but never this one. I really like it and would love to have one... Time to get fiddlin' and make one... Since I have an old violin sitting in the corner, I think I might try.

[GlensterTX]

Here’s all the info I’ve been able to find - this is the “Fullertone”, a product of Fullertone Phonograph Products of Cedar Rapids Iowa. It was announced in the January 1922 issue of “Talking Machine World” and a follow-up article appeared the following month. Both issues may be downloaded from the World Radio History site at
https://worldradiohistory.com/Talking_Machine_World.htm

Surprisingly, the product and the company disappear from the pages of TMW soon after. TMW often would print friendly articles for companies that purchased ad space, but I am unable to find any mention of the company after February 1922. That doesn’t necessarily mean that the company just disappeared, only that they didn’t advertise in the only trade journal for phonographs.

From “Talking Machine World” January 1922

From “Talking Machine World” January 1922, column 2

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From “Talking Machine World” February 1922

I’ve been unable to find anything on Antol Fodor, credited as the designer of the unit.

[Shawn]

Super COOL! Looks fantastic!!

[larryh]

Certainly is a unusal step toward better tones. I wonder if you could put up a record being played by it on here or You Tube? Its beautiful on its own.

[phonogfp]

Another possibility:

https://forum.antiquephono.org/topic/21 ... orn-combo/

George P.

[zonophpones7]

Given the description of it in the article, I have no doubt that it, is describing what I have. The Greek lyre shape resembling a violin in construction and finish... what I find particularly curious is that it is from 1922! The stand was missing when I got it, and I constructed what I thought appropriate to make it usable and had a good aesthetic for displaying assuming it from the early 1900’s. The patent drawings would be particularly helpful regarding this.

[zonophpones7]

I found a Swiss patent using google patents that sounds like it is what I have (copy below). it is translated from German. The horn has an angled piece of wood inside creating two chambers. Unfortunately, the diagram referenced in the patent document is missing. Does anyone know how to go about asking for a copy of this patent from the Swiss patent office?



CH107661A

Switzerland

Inventor: Fodor Antal



Means for improving the sound of reproduced by a phonograph music.



Claims (1)

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PATENT CLAIM: Device for improving the sound of the pieces of music played back by a phonograph, characterized by an instrument that forms a whole, which consists of a resonance body with a vibrating organ, one with. there is two connected needle holder with a playing needle and a support device, said connection being made so that the sound, like a violin, is amplified by the resonance of the resonance body and the air contained therein. SUBCLAIMS: 1.

Device according to patent claim, characterized in that the vibrating element is a partition dividing the resonance body in the form of a box into two spaces of unequal size. 2. Device according to patent claim, characterized in that the vibrating organ is a box which divides the resonance body into two unequal spaces in the resonance body. 3rd

Device according to claim and dependent claim 1, characterized in that the connection between the resonance body and vibrating organ on the one hand and the needle holder on the other hand is made in such a way that on the one hand a rod connected to the vibrating organ is firmly connected to the needle holder and on the other hand a rod is inserted into the needle holder - The last pin is inserted into a retaining plate fixed to the resonance body. 4th

Device according to patent claim, characterized in that the support device has a sleeve placed on a mandrel, in which the resonance body is rotatably supported by means of a pin, a joint being switched on between the resonance body and the pin, which is inserted when the device is used It is allowed to fix the resonance body in a swung position.

Description

Device for improving the sound of the music pieces played back by a phonograph. - The present invention relates to a device for improving the sound of the pieces of music played by a phonograph and has a whole bil Dendes instrument, which consists of a resonance body with a vibrating organ, one with two connected needle holder with playing needle and a support device, whereby the said connection is made in such a way that the sound waves, similar to a violin, be amplified by the resonance of the resonance body and the air in it.

In the drawing, the subject invention is illustrated in several embodiments, for example.

Fig. 1 is a plan view of the on the record of a phonograph on the instrument, with the sound box is partially broken away; Fig. 2 shows a modified execute approximate form of the resonance body; Fig. 3 is an enlarged vertical section of the brought into working position Resonance body according to Fig. 1; Fig. 4 is a section through a support device, and Fig. 5 is such a needle holder.







On the circuit board 2 of a Phonograph 1, which is equipped with scale 3 for setting the running speed and with brake lever 4, a resonance body 5 equipped with sound holes 6 in the manner of a violin is placed. In the execute approximate form according to FIGS. 1 and 3 forms a weak, made about hardwood scabbard wall '7, a vibrating organ inserted into the resonance body. This wall is inclined and touches the walls of the resonance body, the space of which is thus divided into two unequal-sized compartments.

The end 10 ′, bent at right angles, of a rod 10, which is firmly connected to a needle holder 12, rests in a bearing 9 that is firmly seated on this partition. In this, the game needle 13 is set on the underside and a spring pin 11, which is supported against a pin 14, which is adjustably held by an adjusting screw 17 in a bore 15 of a holding plate 16 on the top. This holding plate is firmly screwed to the sound box, and rod 10 passes through a hole 18 in the holding plate and sound box bottom in the nere of this body.

The support device according to FIG. 3 consists of a sleeve 25 fitted onto a split mandrel 24, which has a bore 26 with an extension 27 and a sleeve 28 fitted into this extension. The mandrel sits on a base plate 23, and in the sleeve 28 a means of a head screw 30 secured pin 29 with a conical head 31 is inserted, which is connected by a hinge to the resonance body. The part 35 seated on this body is cut out beyond the hinge pin 34, so that the resonance body in the position indicated by dash-dotted lines, illustrating a non-use position, is located on a holding pin 33 provided in the pin 29 and is secured in its position.

In FIG. 2, the vibrating element, instead of being a partition, is a second box 8 which divides the interior of the resonance body into two spaces of unequal size and which is connected to the needle holder in the same way as the wall in FIG. 1.

The embodiments of the support device and shown in Fig. 4 and 5. Needle holding devices differ from the devices already described in that, according to FIG. 4, the pin 36, which is also provided with a conical head 37, carries a holding pin 39 resting on a spring 40, and that the pin with the holding plate firmly seated on the resonance body 41 connecting joint 38 has a groove 43 interrupted at 42 for the retaining pin, so that the resonance body is fixed in the working position and the non-use position.

The needle holder according to FIG. 5 also occurs if through a hole 21 in the holding plate 19 and the bottom of the resonance body in the interior of this body. The held by the holding plate 19 spring pin 20 but is slanted through a cylindrical neck of the rod 10 and thus rigidly connected to this rod.

Both the spring pin 33 in the execute approximately form according to Eig. 3, as well as the spring pin 20 according to FIG. 5, are intended to ensure the greatest freedom from vibrations for both the rod 11_I and the resonance body, since the vibrations conveyed by the needle 13 are transmitted as precisely as possible, what, how Tests have shown that it is better achieved here than by any universal joint.

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