Need help identifying this gramophone,

[Themars23]

Hi , I’m new to the forum and the world of gramophones.

My father-in-law sadly pasted away recently and his battered but prized gramophone now has a new home in London. It has seen better days but plays fine and, truth be told, sounds utterly bewitching and my wife and I are hooked. Ideally we would like to have it restored.

I’d also like to know a bit more about it.

It’s has an electric turntable a Garrad with a 202a motor. This case looks similar to an EMG deluxe mk VIII but has no markings I can find. The horn I think is a Davey Isophonic Papier Appliqué Horn

Can anyone offer any insights ?

Cheers
Steve

[poodling around]

What a fantastic gramophone.

There are two or three people on here who are well able to answer any questions you have.

I don't know anything about EMG's - but I certainly like what I see. Lots of history !

[Themars23]

What a fantastic gramophone.

There are two or three people on here who are well able to answer any questions you have.

I don't know anything about EMG's - but I certainly like what I see. Lots of history !

Thanks It’s a thing of beauty and I still can’t quite get over how amazingly 3D the soundstage is from it playing a scratchy 78. Totally beguiling ( although I did have to get some soft tone needles because it was so loud ! )

Heres a quick video of the first time it was played in its new home

[epigramophone]

Your EMG Mk.VIII De Luxe has been much modified, e.g. later horn and electric motor, but is potentially a fine machine and well worth restoring.
Whatever you decide to do, may I suggest that your first priority should be to get the woodworm infestation treated.

[Themars23]

Your EMG Mk.VIII De Luxe has been much modified, e.g. later horn and electric motor, but is potentially a fine machine and well worth restoring.
Whatever you decide to do, may I suggest that your first priority should be to get the woodworm infestation treated.

Thanks - yes I am on the case with the woodworm !

[chunnybh]

Yes indeed an EMG Mark VIII Deluxe. Here are more detail on the Deluxe on my website.
http://www.gramophonemuseum.com/emg-gra ... eluxe.html

Looks like the horn has been spared the woodworm. It's fair to assume this was upgraded at least once by EMG. The horn is a Mk Xa. The mouth should be 28". I've known that EMG used the Garrard 202 but it's the first time I have seen one fitted in an EMG. The 4-spring soundbox is also another upgrade.
Loads of potential for restoration and definitely a keeper. Do you have any paperwork with it?

[Themars23]

Yes indeed an EMG Mark VIII Deluxe. Here are more detail on the Deluxe on my website.
http://www.gramophonemuseum.com/emg-gra ... eluxe.html

Looks like the horn has been spared the woodworm. It's fair to assume this was upgraded at least once by EMG. The horn is a Mk Xa. The mouth should be 28". I've known that EMG used the Garrard 202 but it's the first time I have seen one fitted in an EMG. The 4-spring soundbox is also another upgrade.
Loads of potential for restoration and definitely a keeper. Do you have any paperwork with it?

Thanks for the info ( it was your site I was looking at that first made me think it was a mk VIII deluxe )

No paperwork at all I’m afraid - my wife says her dad told her the horn used to belong to Elsie Suddaby the English soprano but that could just be a family myth

Any recommendations for people who might be able to restore it ?

Cheers
Steve