'Early' coin op horns were made from tin not brass ?

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Re: 'Early' coin op horns were made from tin not brass ?

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gramophoneshane wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:26 am
poodling around wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:48 pm
A nickel-plated horn with honey coloured lacquer - that sounds very interesting.

Very helpful indeed.

Thank you !
Orange shellac gives nickel a brassy look, and the more coats you apply the golder it gets, although too many coats gives you an orange-red finish.
2-3 coats of fairly diluted shellac is usually enough, or just one coat of thicker shellac can work well on flat objects.
The biggest problem is applying it evenly without causing an uneven blotchy colour, but dipping objects can work well provided you blot up any excess that accumulates at the bottom of objects due to gravity.
Thanks gramophoneshane.

You mention that shellac is diluted sometimes - what is it diluted with please I wonder ?

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soundgen wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:44 am
poodling around wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:47 pm I saw this video and understand that most early horns were made of tin not brass.

An interesting fact indeed.

Would this also be true of early European coin op horns I wonder ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo8-aM0A9og
So much so wrong ! :cry:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/nationgra ... 21899.html

Guru NOT Guru (/ˈɡuːruː/, UK also /ˈɡʊruː, ˈɡʊər-/; Sanskrit: गुरु, IAST: guru) is a Sanskrit term for a "teacher, guide, expert, or master" of certain knowledge or field. In pan-Indian traditions, a guru is more than a teacher. In Sanskrit, guru means literally dispeller of darkness.
Thanks soundgen.

(I was trying to think of something witty to reply with. I felt sure that there was a good joke relating to Marc Bolan and 'Metal Guru'. Sadly I gave up trying after 5 minutes. I still think there is a good undiscovered joke there some-where ...... :roll: ).

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Shellac is diluted with alcohol.
Over here we call it methylated spirits, (or metho for short) but not sure about in other countries.
It needs to be methyl alcohol, and not Isopropyl Alcohol (rubbing alcohol) which contains water.
Methyl alcohol is also best for cleaning Edison diamond discs for the same reason (no water content), and for use in spirit stoves.
If I remember correctly I think in USA it's called distilled alcohol?

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gramophoneshane wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:47 pm Shellac is diluted with alcohol.
Over here we call it methylated spirits, (or metho for short) but not sure about in other countries.
It needs to be methyl alcohol, and not Isopropyl Alcohol (rubbing alcohol) which contains water.
Methyl alcohol is also best for cleaning Edison diamond discs for the same reason (no water content), and for use in spirit stoves.
If I remember correctly I think in USA it's called distilled alcohol?
I see.

Yes, I know it as methylated spirits (or meths for short).

Thanks as always gramophoneshane.

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gramophoneshane wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:47 pm Shellac is diluted with alcohol.
Over here we call it methylated spirits, (or metho for short) but not sure about in other countries.
It needs to be methyl alcohol, and not Isopropyl Alcohol (rubbing alcohol) which contains water.
Methyl alcohol is also best for cleaning Edison diamond discs for the same reason (no water content), and for use in spirit stoves.
If I remember correctly I think in USA it's called distilled alcohol?
Do you mean denatured alcohol?

- Bill

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Yes Bill, that is what I meant to say but botched it up.
Thank you for the correction.

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