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dzavracky wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:30 am If you look behind the reproducer there is a screw on the tone arm (I didn’t have the screw when I took this picture). If you loosen it, it will allow you to rotate the reproducer. The setting it is in right now is for the vertical cut records. This it what it looks like when it’s rotated for lateral 78’s.

I think you did good for $110. I really liked how small the machine is, but it’s still capable of producing a good tone.

David
Do be aware, however, that the pot metal in this setup almost always swells to the point where this rotation does not happen easily. If yours won't turn properly, it can be adjusted using a combination of heat, cold, and penetrating oil. Search the board and you'll find many threads on the subject of making swollen parts move again.

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52089 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:08 am
dzavracky wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:30 am If you look behind the reproducer there is a screw on the tone arm (I didn’t have the screw when I took this picture). If you loosen it, it will allow you to rotate the reproducer. The setting it is in right now is for the vertical cut records. This it what it looks like when it’s rotated for lateral 78’s.

I think you did good for $110. I really liked how small the machine is, but it’s still capable of producing a good tone.

David
Do be aware, however, that the pot metal in this setup almost always swells to the point where this rotation does not happen easily. If yours won't turn properly, it can be adjusted using a combination of heat, cold, and penetrating oil. Search the board and you'll find many threads on the subject of making swollen parts move again.


YES! I had to stick mine in the freezer overnight. The pot metal is really brittle... so if it isn't moving don't force it.

David

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That's good to hear I was wondering if I overpaid. I didn't really get it for the fact that it was electric I've heard of people throwing parts together for a sale. But it in such good shape. Alan from Prescott was nice enough to give me a crash course on Pathé when I bought one from him. Thanks again for all your help.

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It was tight but rotated after a couple of tries.

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So my question is Big C do you live in AZ? -there are a few of us here and we try to hook up via the Arizona Antique Radio Assoc-as they have brought some of us phonograph guys in to their ranks.
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No I live in Southern California by the Colorado River. I love traveling in Arizona and hopefully I can retire there.

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Victor Jr. When I went to Mexico on a vacation I found this and was hooked. It's all original never been repaired. It was playing in a antique shop.
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David that motor looks really interesting. I have never taken anything like this apart. I think I will take it apart later on. It actually turns easy but the plastic that holds the motor to the wood is gone, just pieces left.

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BigC wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:04 pm David that motor looks really interesting. I have never taken anything like this apart. I think I will take it apart later on. It actually turns easy but the plastic that holds the motor to the wood is gone, just pieces left.
It is really simple. You unscrew the coil from the side of the frame and place it off to the side. (Make sure you either write down or take a picture of how each wire connects). Remove the govenor, spindle shaft, spindle gear, and the induction disc. There was a small ball bearing that sits on the spindle shaft bearing on my motor.. if I had to guess your motor probably has one too. I just used some GOJO soap (without pumice) to clean all the parts, a bristle brush works really well the get all of the grease out of the teeth in the gears. I put sewing machine oil on the govenor shaft and re-assembled it. When you put the govenor back together, it's important that all the weights line up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YTAaYOBiGM&t=180s here's a good video on aligning the weights.
Then you just put it back together, oiling all the bearings and greasing the govenor gear. The induction disc should spin really easily on its own... I'm attaching a video of me spinning the disc on my motor. The last step when it's together is setting the height of the disc... which is done by moving the bearing on the bottom of the spindle shaft up/down. There should be a screw for the adjustments.

Good luck!

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Thank you so much for all your help.

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