A fully restored Sonora Baby Grand Phonograph

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Re: A fully restored Sonora Baby Grand Phonograph

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Looks great, Wonderful restoration.

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Now it looks good for its age! Good work.

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I really do think this 1918 Sonora sound better than a Victrola of the same age. Perhaps its the huge mica on the reproducer or the fact that the horn is 100% wood and not cast metal and wood on the end like Victrola. Also has the felt pad volume control a the horn throat that is better control than opening victrola horn doors. The top design is a Victrola rip off, almost identical but It has really good sound, anyone else agree?

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I'm prepared to believe it, but I'd like to hear my XI side-by-side with that beautiful Sonora!

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I think you can thank the soundbox for the sound quality more than anything else.
I've never understood why Victor/HMV stuck with the Exhibition soundbox for so long.
If I remember correctly it was designed in 1902, and by 1912 or earlier, companies like Paillard (who made your soundbox) and Thorens were making far better soundboxes than the Exhibition.
Personally, I won't play anything but pre WWI records with an exhibition because most offbrands using Swiss or German components combined with a decent horn will be as good if not better at playing anything else.
A lot of these soundboxes are even better than Victor's No.2 in my opinion.

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No question that a competently restored and adjusted sound box is key to everything else! As for the Exhibition, mine is good on acoustics, of course, and also small to medium-size jazz combos and big band swing (electrcical) recordings. It's not so good for symphonic ensembles; leave them for the Orthophonics and VivaTonals!

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Well, my Sonora test was made with a randomly selected record, perhaps the record was in better condition than other test records i used on Victrolas. I will test again using same record on the Sonora and again on my Victrola XVII with number 2 repro and see if my original post holds true.

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It turned out absolutely beautiful, you should be very proud of all that you have done to save this piece of history for future generations! :coffee:

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In the second before picture you posted, there's a small metal plate attached to the inside of the lid. Why wasn't it re-attached to the inside of the lid after the restoration?

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dzavracky wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:09 am In the second before picture you posted, there's a small metal plate attached to the inside of the lid. Why wasn't it re-attached to the inside of the lid after the restoration?

David
I couldn’t see it very well in the picture, but was that the serial number plate that is usually found under the turntable on Sonoras?

Bill

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