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David
They are rare things to be treasured and shared, and many owners dogunnarthefeisty wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:43 pm I think what surprises me about the apparent rarity of these phonos is how many are seen on YouTube. I guess owners really love to show them off haha
I do feel I'm sharing the joy of mine, rather than showing them off (not meaning to seize unduly on your words though, Gunnar!).gunnarthefeisty wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:43 pm I think what surprises me about the apparent rarity of these phonos is how many are seen on YouTube. I guess owners really love to show them off haha
Oh, I didn't mean that negatively! The more phono videos I can find, the betterOrchorsol wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:25 pmI do feel I'm sharing the joy of mine, rather than showing them off (not meaning to seize unduly on your words though, Gunnar!).gunnarthefeisty wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:43 pm I think what surprises me about the apparent rarity of these phonos is how many are seen on YouTube. I guess owners really love to show them off haha
I didn't take it negatively!gunnarthefeisty wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:59 pmOh, I didn't mean that negatively! The more phono videos I can find, the betterOrchorsol wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:25 pmI do feel I'm sharing the joy of mine, rather than showing them off (not meaning to seize unduly on your words though, Gunnar!).gunnarthefeisty wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:43 pm I think what surprises me about the apparent rarity of these phonos is how many are seen on YouTube. I guess owners really love to show them off haha
I sold my Credenza once I got my HMV 163 in oak. It is may favorite machine. I did replace the sound box both with a nickeled brass Victor sound box for instrumental music and I use a late RCA Victor "Orthophonic" reproducer for vocals. When the re-entrants came out here in America HMV came out with the sax horn machine, which I also have and love. But by the time HMV moved to the re-entrants Victor with RCA was concentrating on electrical reproduction.Steve wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:27 amIndeed. Compare that to production numbers for a Victor Credenza or 10-50. Ignoring the fact that no Victor machine can compare sound quality wise to the superior larger HMV re-entrants, whilst the largest models of EMG and Expert are much better again, both the HMVs and the EMG / Experts were made in the very low hundreds, not tens of thousands.epigramophone wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:40 am This is a fair price for a private sale with no greedy auctioneers "Buyers Premium" to add, commonly up to 30% these days.
As to rarity, I know of no surviving production figures for Expert gramophones, but the late Frank James estimated that EMG produced about 1500 machines in total during the entire period of their existence.