Wow !!! India Teak HMV 102 ????

[Steve]

As much as I want a teak 102 I'm not tempted by this one. I asked for some extra photos of the case as I was busy wringing by hands trying to decide if I could spruce it up a little and if it was therefore worth going for. The seller has been very helpful and provided photos but the set down side of the case is really not pretty; it is very badly scratched, as is the lock side of the case. Many scratches appear quite deep too which means refinishing the cabinet will be a challenge and never entirely successful.

Hopefully it will go to someone who will appreciate it in all its battered glory (not deep fried ) but that person isn't me. I already have an oak 100, pristine teak 100, 112, 113 and 114. I also have 2 teak 101s, one very good and the other - with a solid, not panelled case and side wind - a "project machine", so this is one more project too many for me.

[poodling around]

As much as I want a teak 102 I'm not tempted by this one. I asked for some extra photos of the case as I was busy wringing by hands trying to decide if I could spruce it up a little and if it was therefore worth going for. The seller has been very helpful and provided photos but the set down side of the case is really not pretty; it is very badly scratched, as is the lock side of the case. Many scratches appear quite deep too which means refinishing the cabinet will be a challenge and never entirely successful.

Hopefully it will go to someone who will appreciate it in all its battered glory (not deep fried ) but that person isn't me. I already have an oak 100, pristine teak 100, 112, 113 and 114. I also have 2 teak 101s, one very good and the other - with a solid, not panelled case and side wind - a "project machine", so this is one more project too many for me.

From my perspective I would certainly keep it as it is.

The old debate of course, 'to renovate or not to renovate'.

It's a good thing I think this though, as with my skills attempting renovation would be pointless

[Steve]

As much as I want a teak 102 I'm not tempted by this one. I asked for some extra photos of the case as I was busy wringing by hands trying to decide if I could spruce it up a little and if it was therefore worth going for. The seller has been very helpful and provided photos but the set down side of the case is really not pretty; it is very badly scratched, as is the lock side of the case. Many scratches appear quite deep too which means refinishing the cabinet will be a challenge and never entirely successful.

Hopefully it will go to someone who will appreciate it in all its battered glory (not deep fried ) but that person isn't me. I already have an oak 100, pristine teak 100, 112, 113 and 114. I also have 2 teak 101s, one very good and the other - with a solid, not panelled case and side wind - a "project machine", so this is one more project too many for me.

From my perspective I would certainly keep it as it is.

The old debate of course, 'to renovate or not to renovate'.

It's a good thing I think this though, as with my skills attempting renovation would be pointless

Irrespective of your particularly skill set, I've never seen anyone's work in refinishing which remotely resembles the original finish, even so-called skilled professional French polishers.

[poodling around]

As much as I want a teak 102 I'm not tempted by this one. I asked for some extra photos of the case as I was busy wringing by hands trying to decide if I could spruce it up a little and if it was therefore worth going for. The seller has been very helpful and provided photos but the set down side of the case is really not pretty; it is very badly scratched, as is the lock side of the case. Many scratches appear quite deep too which means refinishing the cabinet will be a challenge and never entirely successful.

Hopefully it will go to someone who will appreciate it in all its battered glory (not deep fried ) but that person isn't me. I already have an oak 100, pristine teak 100, 112, 113 and 114. I also have 2 teak 101s, one very good and the other - with a solid, not panelled case and side wind - a "project machine", so this is one more project too many for me.

From my perspective I would certainly keep it as it is.

The old debate of course, 'to renovate or not to renovate'.

It's a good thing I think this though, as with my skills attempting renovation would be pointless

Irrespective of your particularly skill set, I've never seen anyone's work in refinishing which remotely resembles the original finish, even so-called skilled professional French polishers.

I agree with you 100 % !

The India Teak 102's certainly have a unique 'finish' all of their own.

[Steve]

Yours for £355 and you were right, there is not much interest apparently, even now its ended.

[Garret]

As much as I want a teak 102 I'm not tempted by this one. I asked for some extra photos of the case as I was busy wringing by hands trying to decide if I could spruce it up a little and if it was therefore worth going for. The seller has been very helpful and provided photos but the set down side of the case is really not pretty; it is very badly scratched, as is the lock side of the case. Many scratches appear quite deep too which means refinishing the cabinet will be a challenge and never entirely successful.

Hopefully it will go to someone who will appreciate it in all its battered glory (not deep fried ) but that person isn't me. I already have an oak 100, pristine teak 100, 112, 113 and 114. I also have 2 teak 101s, one very good and the other - with a solid, not panelled case and side wind - a "project machine", so this is one more project too many for me.

From my perspective I would certainly keep it as it is.

The old debate of course, 'to renovate or not to renovate'.

It's a good thing I think this though, as with my skills attempting renovation would be pointless

Irrespective of your particularly skill set, I've never seen anyone's work in refinishing which remotely resembles the original finish, even so-called skilled professional French polishers.

Jonsheff on this forum does very, very good work in this regard. However it's exceptionally time consuming.

[poodling around]

The rectangular Ivorine plaque was introduced in 1936, incorporating a "B" prefix indicating the year of manufacture.
UK 102's from 1936 onwards have this plaque and prefix. The plaque on the machine under discussion does not have this prefix.
Indian made machines are a law unto themselves, so this anomaly may remain a mystery.

If I understand what you have said, then why doesn't this, apparently made and sold in Great Britain HMV 102 have a "B" prefix either ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155425361295 ... R6qssLvQYQ

[poodling around]

Yours for £355 and you were right, there is not much interest apparently, even now its ended.

Yes, curious isn't it .........................

[Inigo]

maybe i don't understand the question, but it's not a mystery to me... numbers prior to 1936 didn't have the B. So this one in eBay was made between 1931 and 1935 in the UK. isn't it?

[Steve]

maybe i don't understand the question, but it's not a mystery to me... numbers prior to 1936 didn't have the B. So this one in eBay was made between 1931 and 1935 in the UK. isn't it?

Yes.