Puritan info

[oltractor]

Does this look right to those that are familiar? I am considering this, Thanks much for any replies! https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 656503375/

[Inigo]

I'm not an resort on puritan but it seems authentic and complete, except that there seems to be a missing cap end to the gooseneck tonearm... And seems to be in very good condition. The tonearm, gooseneck and revolver soundbox s'en to be nickeled pot metal and could be jammed... that could be the explanation for the intermittent sound in the video. But if it is not cracked, it could be treated, polishing the joints that are a bit jammed etc....

[tictalk]

Nice looking machine, I have had several Baroque Model Puritans like this one, the case looks very nice and Oak is a huge plus. The tonearm looks different that the machines I have had, but perhaps they had a design change, all the Baroques that I have seen have had gold plating but the rest of the metal fittings in your pictures appear to be nickel so who knows, The main issue is the grill has been replaced.

[Pathe Logical]

This Puritan model was actually a precursor to the Baroque, and is known as the No. 200 (see ID tag in advert.) Going by what I've observed in the past, nickle-plated hardware seems to be standard on this model. The later Baroque had gold-plated hardware. BTW, the smaller, bowed Puritan Artline also had gold-plated hardware, but its predecessor (No. 100) had nickle-plated hardware. I don't think the tonearm and reproducer are correct on the machine in the advert.

[Curt A]

Looks good to me, but I've only seen 2 or 3. The price seems fair - less than they used to bring. If the tonearm & reproducer are not original, they look good and fit correctly... it wouldn't be a concern to me.

They are not commonly seen, so there aren't a lot to compare to. Besides that, off brand machines used various different suppliers resulting in variations. If you like it, then that is enough reason to buy it and not everyone will have one.

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[Curt A]

Here is a listing from January, 2023 that sold for $1,450.00, which is more like prices I have seen in the past...

https://www.harpgallery.com/shop/item42946.html

[Benjamin_L]

You'd think from the tonearm this would be late Puritan, but 491 seems like a low serial number. It's using a supplier tonearm that could slide on a radio speaker to use the horn for amplification. (It's missing the cover cap.) The tonearm design dates around 1923-1925 but Puritan ended production around 1922-1923. Either it's a late overstock cabinet slapped on with a supplier tonearm to quickly sell. Or it was updated to accommodate for a radio. 491 still seems too low to be sitting around that long, making me think it was updated. Except it has a matching early 20s auto stop, suggesting they were put on at the same time. (The mounting base would need to be removed to see if there are any signs of a pervious tonearm.)

It looks to be in pretty good shape, other than the grill being replaced. I feel $395 isn't too bad, however with the missing grill I'm thinking more around $150-$250.

[Benjamin_L]

Here is a listing from January, 2023 that sold for $1,450.00, which is more like prices I have seen in the past...

https://www.harpgallery.com/shop/item42946.html

Harp Gallery is the most overpriced antique store in the country... I've been watching a Vocalion art model they've had listed for around two years. (I'm amazed they're able to sell anything.) My conspiracy is they that take an offer and list it as "sold". I'd be impressed if that Puritan sold for half of what their asking price was.

[Benjamin_L]

This Puritan model was actually a precursor to the Baroque, and is known as the No. 200 (see ID tag in advert.) Going by what I've observed in the past, nickle-plated hardware seems to be standard on this model. The later Baroque had gold-plated hardware. BTW, the smaller, bowed Puritan Artline also had gold-plated hardware, but its predecessor (No. 100) had nickle-plated hardware. I don't think the tonearm and reproducer are correct on the machine in the advert.

Did they advertise them with a period style name along with the number? I ask because the first Puritan models launched in 1917 were advertised with names and not model numbers.

[Pathe Logical]

Hey Benjamin L,

I've only seen three different Puritan machine catalogs, and the models in each have name designations rather than numbers.

BTW, my wife and I were actually in Harp Gallery yesterday afternoon. The shop specializes in high-end furniture (mostly refinished). I can't believe the prices (or the questionable replacement parts) they put on their phonographs!!! They had about eight different, common floor models available priced in the $900 to $1500 range. Victor XI, Credenza (replacement , wooden knobs, nickle-plated earlier fat acoustic tonearm), Edison H-19, C-250s, Silvertone, etc.