A real heartbreak to see

Post by **gramophone78** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:46 pm

I have seen many things that have made me sad that were ruined by a careless hand but, this is a real shame

. What would have been a very clean and straight Berliner funnel horn. Now, a useless mess. To add further injury, it is being sold with a Vic #2

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solophoneman · Post by **solophoneman** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:02 pm

Can you post a link to the sale?

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:20 pm

No doubt a skilled tinsmith could rebuild/restore these pieces into one useable, and attractive, whole.

Phonofreak · Post by **Phonofreak** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:05 pm

I saw that item on ebay. I wonder why people do things like that. I hope that horn can be repaired.
Harvey Kravitz

oldtvsandtoys · Post by **oldtvsandtoys** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:21 pm

Heres a link to the set. If it don't work its item # 270718447396

http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Victor-II-T ... 3f0813af24

De Soto Frank · Post by **De Soto Frank** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:54 pm

( Showing my ignorance here ) - the machine itself looks like a promising "back-mount" Victor, but that horn appears to be of front-mount configuration ?

I can't tell from the listing pics - did the horn get cut into two sections, or did it break apart at a solder-joint ?

OrthoFan · Post by **OrthoFan** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:53 pm

De Soto Frank wrote:( Showing my ignorance here ) - the machine itself looks like a promising "back-mount" Victor, but that horn appears to be of front-mount configuration ?

I can't tell from the listing pics - did the horn get cut into two sections, or did it break apart at a solder-joint ?

That's a horn, probably from the mid-to-late 1890s, used on the very early Berliner models, including the "Improved Gramophone."

Some photos of a complete horn appear on this page -- http://www.wyattsmusical.com/pictures.html

Also http://www.intertique.com/BerlinerHandCrankID.html
(Click on images for blow-up photos)

From the looks of it, the horn was cut for god knows what reason!

Post by **gramophone78** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:33 am

Yes, it is sad to say that what would have been a great horn has been hack sawed into two......

. I almost want to cry. Now, I see it is no longer being sold with the Vic 2. The seller now thinks it is still big $$$$$. Even if you were to get it back together.....it would still be a repaired horn and I'm not sure that it could be done very good anyway. Maybe the past onwer was trying to make it fit the Vic 2?????. I mean a horn is a horn....no????....

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De Soto Frank · Post by **De Soto Frank** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:35 am

Or someone needed a funnel...

YouTube · Post by **JohnM** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:42 am

gramophone78 wrote:I mean a horn is a horn....no????.... .

Only if it's on a "Victrola"!

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