Mahogany Victor III ??

[fonograph]

Do any of you "old timers" to the message board recall the discussion about a Vic III in mahogany?
I picked one up this weekend and it looks to be 100% original, although, one might conclude that it was oak stained mahogany? Hard to tell
It has a mahogany smooth horn that matches the cabinet perfectly?
I remember a discussion about this machine (or one like it) several years ago.

[OrthoFan]

I think it was this one:

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... f=2&t=3555

The conclusion was the that one spotted for sale on eBay may have been spray-painted or dyed, somehow.

[Jerry B.]

Can you post a photo? I have an Edison Concert that at first glance appears to be mahogany but it's stained oak. I suspect this was done when the machine was a current machine and the work was done by a private company not Edison.

[gramophone78]

I have a mahogany 5 and have seen two over the years. Most were later models that I think were made well into the 1920's as a model "E". The one I kept is thought to have been the earlier model "C" (1917)as a custom order because it has the three spring motor and matching motor paper inside and other "C" components but, also the larger model "E" size case?????. It has been sun faded but, I would never touch it. Here is a pic of the other sitting on the floor next to an oak 5. I am trying to save that one from certain destruction but, so far I have failed.
Since we are running out of room, we are thinking that this mahogany 5 may go up for sale one day soon.....we will see.

[Amberola 1-A]

What is the serial number of this machine? It is hard to read from the pix as it is blurry.

Bill

[gramophone78]

The number on my machine is #58209.

[Uncle Vanya, not signed in]

[quote="gramophone78"]I have a mahogany 5 and have seen two over the years. Most were later models that I think were made well into the 1920's as a model "E". The one I kept is thought to have been the earlier model "C" (1917)as a custom order because it has the three spring motor and matching motor paper inside and other "C" components but, also the larger model "E" size case?????. It has been sun faded but, I would never touch it. Here is a pic of the other sitting on the floor next to an oak 5. I am trying to save that one from certain destruction but, so far I have failed.
Since we are running out of room, we are thinking that this mahogany 5 may go up for sale one day soon.....we will see.[/quote]

If the Data Book does indeed say that machines with the late style three spring motor all were fitted with the standard size cabinet then it may err on this point.

Look at your machine and note that the cabinet could be no smaller and yet allow the turntable to remain centered, for this late three-spring motor is much larger than the early model.

I have seen a couple of oak machines with just the same cnfiguration as your unit. The only machines that I noted with the four-spring version of the "Burton" motor did not have conventional, hinged lids, but were fitted with a removable motor board, in the manner of the more common Victrolas.

I recall some poster on this (or perhaps the old) message board posessing one of these very late Victor V machines, and posting photos.

[gramophone78]

Yes, there was a post on the other forum. Moo showed his oak and my mahogany model. You may wish to check that out again. I think Moo had said that the "E" model came with a 4 spring motor and a different speed control (window type I think).