Cygnet Horn Crane Question

[columbia1spring]

Members.
When looking for a cygnet horn crane. If installing it on a triumph model B with a “C” reproducer, is there a length I need to get?
Are there just 2 lower pieces, 1 that fits a C and 1 that fits a horizontal carriage ? With the horizontal crane being shorter? Is it possible that between the spring adjustment and installing the back bracket and the rubber connector that either will fit? Of course I am probably 100% wrong! Any help is greatly appreciated.

[JerryVan]

While the height may be an issue, the offset from the mounting bracket is also critical. It's the offset that centers the horn over the reproducer neck. The horizontal carriage, for instance, locates the reproducer further back than a "C" reproducer would mount. The horn needs to sit further back as well and with the wrong crane offset, the horn sits at an odd angle and sometimes hits the crane.

[columbia1spring]

That clarifies a lot. I now understand why when I went to the Phonograph Shop there were so many options in buying a crane set up. Is it safe to say that all back brackets are the same?

[JerryVan]

Is it safe to say that all back brackets are the same?

I'd say that they are the same.

[columbia1spring]

The lower half of a cygnet 10, is that the same as the lower half of a cygnet 11? My question is, will a reproduction wood cygnet bell fit on a # 10? Or do I need a lower half from a #11?

[tomb]

My wooden horn works OK on the number 10 after the spring is adjusted correctly. Also a flexible correct length rubber connector is needed. Tom

[columbia1spring]

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My wooden horn works OK on the number 10 after the spring is adjusted correctly. Also a flexible correct length rubber connector is needed. Tom
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I have a rubber tube and a 45 degree elbow to aid in the set up/function

[columbia1spring]

Members,
I was able to complete my cygnet horn project. As pointed out to me, the lower bar was the most important piece of the puzzle. It determines the angle of the horn. I’ve seen some horns sit facings up and some facing down.
An exceptional member here on the forum sent me an assortment of different cygnet crane bars and it didn’t take long to figure out what I needed. The horn is perfectly in the center of the bars and the horn sits straight up and down.

[An Balores]

What a pretty looking machine!

[tomb]

This cane out very nice. Tom