I recently bought at auction a Genola toy phonograph, not running. I want to pull the motor out. This requires that I get the turntable off. There lies my problem. The spindle top screws off--no problem. I think the turntable is a friction fit, such that I should be able to pull it off. It doesn't want to budge. Before I apply more force, I thought I'd check with the Froum to see if anyone has serviced one of these machines. Is that turntable in fact a friction fit? Any suggestions or cautions before I proceed?
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Genola question
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Re: Genola question
It shouldn't be a friction, or press, fit. It's probably just corrosion. Try putting a couple drops of penetrating oil, (not WD-40), where you removed the spindle top screw, (not down the threaded hole, but where the shaft and turntable meet). Let it soak in for a while, then put the screw back in, but do not thread it all the way down. Leave it backed off a turn or two. While supporting the turntable edges, tap on the spindle screw with a rawhide mallet or wooden hammer. Just several sharp "raps". Don't go nuts or you may bend the screw. This should help to break the turntable loose. Notice if after a few taps, the gap under the spindle screw has closed up due to the shaft being driven down.
P.S. You'll probably get some oil on the felt...
P.S. You'll probably get some oil on the felt...
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JerryVan:
I shall give that a try . . .
John
PS: Thanks!
I shall give that a try . . .
John
PS: Thanks!
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Brilliant! Profound! I will remember this. The idea is to back the spindle stop screw off a bit so's when you give it a tap, you're driving the spindle down independent of the turntable. Here's a picture.
Thanks, JerryVan. You're my hero.
John
Thanks, JerryVan. You're my hero.
John
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Great news! Happy to help. Not every day I get to be a "hero"!
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I've dismantled the motor. Everything was coated with a thick layer of very viscous grease, for example here:
The mainspring seems fine (I haven't opened the barrel). I think the grease was no longer acting as a lubricant but a deterrent. It has since been cleaned off. After cleaning one of the wheels, I found a trademark stamped into the wheel:
I have high hopes with a good cleaning this machine will once again do what it was designed to do, make music.
John
The mainspring seems fine (I haven't opened the barrel). I think the grease was no longer acting as a lubricant but a deterrent. It has since been cleaned off. After cleaning one of the wheels, I found a trademark stamped into the wheel:
I have high hopes with a good cleaning this machine will once again do what it was designed to do, make music.
John
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Re: Genola question
I think at least you'd better open the barrel to see how is the grease in the spring. You could find it nice, or you could find a black thick cake that prevents a smooth sliding of the spring, actually detracting a lot from the spring power.
Inigo