Half a external horn machine: Legit or half a Frankenphone?

Discussions on Talking Machines & Accessories
Post Reply
User avatar
AmberolaAndy
Victor V
Posts: 2702
Joined: Fri May 26, 2017 10:15 pm
Location: A small town near Omaha, Nebraska

Half a external horn machine: Legit or half a Frankenphone?

Post by AmberolaAndy »

I got situation similar to when I got my Standard Style X machine 5 years ago, Jerry B gave me a what would be half of an external horn disc machine without a crank or a horn/tonearm combo (also missing the bottom of a case)

I see no labels on the case so I’m thinking this was part of someone’s Frankenphone project?
The motor in the case looks like something from a later portable but is branded MOTOR on the motor…

Can I possibly finish this project and get a tonearm crank and horn for this?
Attachments
IMG_2228.jpeg
IMG_2234.jpeg
IMG_2233.jpeg
IMG_2229.jpeg
IMG_2230.jpeg
IMG_2232.jpeg
Last edited by AmberolaAndy on Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:36 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Lucius1958
Victor Monarch
Posts: 4067
Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:17 am
Location: Where there's "hamburger ALL OVER the highway"...

Re: Half a external horn machine: Legit or half a Frankenphone?

Post by Lucius1958 »

I see 'QUALITY' on the motor, which makes me think it's a Heinemann ('The Motor of Quality'). Did they have a model named 'Victor'? Would VTMCo have allowed that? :?

- Bill

User avatar
Inigo
Victor Monarch
Posts: 4570
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:51 am
Personal Text: Keep'em well oiled
Location: Madrid, Spain
Contact:

Re: Half a external horn machine: Legit or half a Frankenphone?

Post by Inigo »

The central letters say MOTOR not VICTOR. It is the well known round seal of Heinemann motors. I'm trying to find a number or something in the photos. It's like the seal they used on records
IMG_20240614_072913.jpg
IMG_20240614_072913.jpg (36.04 KiB) Viewed 798 times
but writing RECORD instead of MOTOR
Inigo

User avatar
AmberolaAndy
Victor V
Posts: 2702
Joined: Fri May 26, 2017 10:15 pm
Location: A small town near Omaha, Nebraska

Re: Half a external horn machine: Legit or half a Frankenphone?

Post by AmberolaAndy »

Inigo wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:17 am The central letters say MOTOR not VICTOR. It is the well known round seal of Heinemann motors. I'm trying to find a number or something in the photos. It's like the seal they used on records
IMG_20240614_072913.jpg
but writing RECORD instead of MOTOR
Well it being a Heinemann motor, it would be a motor from something after the external horn era?

JerryVan
Victor Monarch Special
Posts: 6587
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:08 pm
Location: Southeast MI

Re: Half a external horn machine: Legit or half a Frankenphone?

Post by JerryVan »

AmberolaAndy wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:38 am
Inigo wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:17 am The central letters say MOTOR not VICTOR. It is the well known round seal of Heinemann motors. I'm trying to find a number or something in the photos. It's like the seal they used on records
IMG_20240614_072913.jpg
but writing RECORD instead of MOTOR
Well it being a Heinemann motor, it would be a motor from something after the external horn era?
Correct.

User avatar
AmberolaAndy
Victor V
Posts: 2702
Joined: Fri May 26, 2017 10:15 pm
Location: A small town near Omaha, Nebraska

Re: Half a external horn machine: Legit or half a Frankenphone?

Post by AmberolaAndy »

JerryVan wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:08 pm
AmberolaAndy wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:38 am
Inigo wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:17 am The central letters say MOTOR not VICTOR. It is the well known round seal of Heinemann motors. I'm trying to find a number or something in the photos. It's like the seal they used on records
IMG_20240614_072913.jpg
but writing RECORD instead of MOTOR
Well it being a Heinemann motor, it would be a motor from something after the external horn era?
Correct.
Hmm...well looks like we got a genuine half a Frankenphone here...I wonder should I part or should I complete?

User avatar
AmberolaAndy
Victor V
Posts: 2702
Joined: Fri May 26, 2017 10:15 pm
Location: A small town near Omaha, Nebraska

Re: Half a external horn machine: Legit or half a Frankenphone?

Post by AmberolaAndy »

JerryVan wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:08 pm
AmberolaAndy wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:38 am
Inigo wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:17 am The central letters say MOTOR not VICTOR. It is the well known round seal of Heinemann motors. I'm trying to find a number or something in the photos. It's like the seal they used on records
IMG_20240614_072913.jpg
but writing RECORD instead of MOTOR
Well it being a Heinemann motor, it would be a motor from something after the external horn era?
Correct.
Ok I looked closely at inside the cabinet and I noticed this IMPORTANT label I had inside my standard model X machine…could have this been a Standard model A, Harmony, or Aretino case now with a Heinemann motor to replace the Columbia motor with the exposed spring?
Attachments
IMG_2279.jpeg
IMG_2286.jpeg

JerryVan
Victor Monarch Special
Posts: 6587
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:08 pm
Location: Southeast MI

Re: Half a external horn machine: Legit or half a Frankenphone?

Post by JerryVan »

It may be easier to identify if you showed a photo of the whole thing and not just close-ups.

Post Reply