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[edisonplayer]

Doug,I remember a few years ago on eBay a man was selling an outside horn Victor.In reality it was a cobbled together mess!He had,if I remember correctly,$10,000 on it!!I don't know if he ever sold it,but his spiel was entertaining! edisonplayer.

[ChesterCheetah18]

For anyone interested, here is a better picture of the horn. On close inspection using the zoom function one can see that the horn may be homemade (perhaps from paper mache) with (I'm guessing) a black rubber hose section permanently bent (presumably by heat) for the 90 degree "elbow". The gold striping on the horn was clearly made by a somewhat unsteady hand. For what it's worth, whomever made the horn was pretty clever.

Doug

Thanks for that Doug. From that angle, it’s easy to see it’s not a Gem horn. I’m relieved at least an original horn wasn’t destroyed.
I did also notice that although the serial number would indicate it’s a Type B, it doesn’t have a “forward” crank, making me think the Data Plate is also not original to the machine.

Steve

[VanEpsFan1914]

You can get 90-degree rubber hose bends from an auto parts store as they fit the radiators on some car engines.
I don't mind the idea of a homemade phonograph but the loss of the VV-VI is not so great.

[Lucius1958]

For anyone interested, here is a better picture of the horn. On close inspection using the zoom function one can see that the horn may be homemade (perhaps from paper mache) with (I'm guessing) a black rubber hose section permanently bent (presumably by heat) for the 90 degree "elbow". The gold striping on the horn was clearly made by a somewhat unsteady hand. For what it's worth, whomever made the horn was pretty clever.

Doug

Under very close scrutiny, I suspect metal construction. It could even be from a small cylinder machine, perhaps?

- Bill

[FellowCollector]

Under very close scrutiny, I suspect metal construction. It could even be from a small cylinder machine, perhaps?

In light of the subtle ripples here and there in the horn petals in the picture under magnification I remain doubtful that this horn is metal. No matter what material was used it appears to have been cleverly made.

Doug