I have a Victor II Humpback and just recently the winding shaft broke!
Does anyone have a replacement? I hope these photos help. I measured the shaft and it’s ¼” in diameter, approximately 3 to 3 ½” in length with gear attached.
I'm thinking the answer may be to make one myself, but I really would like to avoid figuring out what thread size, buying a die, etc!
Please let me know if you have this part or if you know who might have one/make one. Thank you!
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Isn't it just a straight shaft with a threaded end holes for pins? Should be very easy to fabricate.
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Just to update and close this topic, I did indeed make my own. I am deeply indebted to an old post by CDBPDX and the contributions of he and Victrola-Monkey in that thread (which you can find here: viewtopic.php?t=36297)
For anyone interested in making one for the first time, here's what I did. Maybe you may find this helpful someday.
I used ¼" diameter steel rod from the hardware store. The key was to identify what threads the crank needed and to buy the correct die to make threads on the rod. My crank was ¼ x 24 threads as confirmed by testing with a standard Victrola motor board bolt in it which are ¼ x 24 (thanks Victrola-Monkey for the tip!). I found a die on amazon. It's somewhat hard to find today.
Once I made the right amount of threads on the end, I very carefully lined it up in the motor and marked where I wanted the hole for the pin and where the shaft needed to be cut for the winding gear to attach at the right length. There's not much room for error so take some time. The whole rod was just the slightest bit tight for the motor but I filed it down in the drill press a little bit and it worked (poor man's lathe - not really advisable and use at your own risk).
I used a 1/16" cobalt drill bit in a drill press with cutting fluid. Easy to drill the hole, but take your time to center it for structural integrity. I put the old winding shaft in a loose vice with the gear up and the shaft down, using a punch to hit the shaft from the gear. Then I hammered the gear onto the new shaft. Used the drill press to drill for a pin and inserted a pin to secure the gear and shaft.
I figured this out pretty much on my own with very limited knowledge but it's working great so far. The crank threads onto the shaft about seven revolutions now, whereas it used to bind after only two revolutions (the shaft that broke was a later replacement and had different threads than what the crank needed, I believe). I think it's very important to get the correct threading for this project since you want the crank to be as secure and happy as possible
Good luck to anyone out there needing to tackle this project. I'll have to wait and see how long my repair lasts. Who knows? But I will be playing this one quite a bit in the immediate future so I'll report back if it gives me issues or I learn anything else.
For anyone interested in making one for the first time, here's what I did. Maybe you may find this helpful someday.
I used ¼" diameter steel rod from the hardware store. The key was to identify what threads the crank needed and to buy the correct die to make threads on the rod. My crank was ¼ x 24 threads as confirmed by testing with a standard Victrola motor board bolt in it which are ¼ x 24 (thanks Victrola-Monkey for the tip!). I found a die on amazon. It's somewhat hard to find today.
Once I made the right amount of threads on the end, I very carefully lined it up in the motor and marked where I wanted the hole for the pin and where the shaft needed to be cut for the winding gear to attach at the right length. There's not much room for error so take some time. The whole rod was just the slightest bit tight for the motor but I filed it down in the drill press a little bit and it worked (poor man's lathe - not really advisable and use at your own risk).
I used a 1/16" cobalt drill bit in a drill press with cutting fluid. Easy to drill the hole, but take your time to center it for structural integrity. I put the old winding shaft in a loose vice with the gear up and the shaft down, using a punch to hit the shaft from the gear. Then I hammered the gear onto the new shaft. Used the drill press to drill for a pin and inserted a pin to secure the gear and shaft.
I figured this out pretty much on my own with very limited knowledge but it's working great so far. The crank threads onto the shaft about seven revolutions now, whereas it used to bind after only two revolutions (the shaft that broke was a later replacement and had different threads than what the crank needed, I believe). I think it's very important to get the correct threading for this project since you want the crank to be as secure and happy as possible
Good luck to anyone out there needing to tackle this project. I'll have to wait and see how long my repair lasts. Who knows? But I will be playing this one quite a bit in the immediate future so I'll report back if it gives me issues or I learn anything else.
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You've done a fantastic job!!
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