Wanted compassion to my English Columbia Graphophone Mahogany circa 1914/15

[markiemark]

Do you own one of these exact ma hines. Need to make comparison, to see if I have all the correct parts for it. Please email me.
Thanks Mark
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[Steve]

AI concoction?
The elbow to back-bracket certainly appears to be anyway!

[epigramophone]

Here is the relevant page from the 1913/14 catalogue.
Your machine is missing the "Dust Guard" which fits beneath the turntable.
I don't recognise the brake and speed controls either.
Check whether it has been re-motored. The motor should be a Columbia triple spring.

[JerryVan]

AI concoction?
The elbow to back-bracket certainly appears to be anyway!

It all looks correct for a very late model Columbia horn machine.

[JerryVan]

Here is the relevant page from the 1913/14 catalogue.
Your machine is missing the "Dust Guard" which fits beneath the turntable.
I don't recognise the brake and speed controls either.
Check whether it has been re-motored. The motor should be a Columbia triple spring.

Not all Columbia disc machines had a "dust guard", even within the same model designation. You will find Columbia BI models both with, and without the ring. The only way to really know if one is missing, is to find the 4 telltale screw holes where one was once attached. The fact that this later example seems to have a brake adjacent to the turntable, and a needle cup also located very near, or even a bit under, the edge of the turntable, suggests to me that a dust ring was never present on this example. It would interfere with both the brake and needle cup.

[Steve]

AI concoction?
The elbow to back-bracket certainly appears to be anyway!

It all looks correct for a very late model Columbia horn machine.

That's good to know, thanks. On my (admittedly small) screen it's difficult to tell either way, but it appears to resemble a crapophone elbow. It might be the angle of the photo but it appears to be a very steep bend in it without much of a curve? I'd like to see a close-up of the elbow.

[JerryVan]

AI concoction?
The elbow to back-bracket certainly appears to be anyway!

It all looks correct for a very late model Columbia horn machine.

That's good to know, thanks. On my (admittedly small) screen it's difficult to tell either way, but it appears to resemble a crapophone elbow. It might be the angle of the photo but it appears to be a very steep bend in it without much of a curve? I'd like to see a close-up of the elbow.

I searched on-line for an example of the elbow. The best I could find was this image, borrowed from Lynn Bilton's website. Suffice to say, it was not an attractive design...

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[Steve]

Agreed, that is quite ugly and easy to mistake for a cobbled arrangement when seen today, especially as these are quite rare machines in the UK at least.

Thanks for the scan, Jerry, most interesting.

[Inigo]

And how it sounds? Looks like a very efficient machine to enjoy records... A video would be very interesting...