"The MicaMonster Report," from Winstead Auction

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"The MicaMonster Report," from Winstead Auction

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"WOW, what a DRIVE!"

Let me "set up the pins" for this story, so we can knock them all down together at the conclusion of the drama. YES, there WILL be drama here, folks. And I have toned this down a lot, as it has been a somewhat therapeutic activity writing all this out.

Before leaving for this trip, I cleared a corner of my office to receive "the machines" that I would be winning at the auction, because through sheer will power (and a false sense of clairvoyance) I knew I would be the winner. Went to the bank, took out cash, fueled up the car, and off I went at 2PM on Friday. So, right here I must illustrate that I had an emotional involvement with machines I didn't even own yet. This is definitely an characteristic of some form of Gramophone illness.

16 hours in my car, with a 1.5 hr delay in West Orange NJ, a stone's throw from the Edison Site, due to flooding in the road. The drive through the North Carolina countryside was calming, and definitely sweeter smelling. I'm good on long drives, especially when phonographs are involved. I'm sure some of my fellow board members can relate!

I arrived at the gallery. The sheer accumulation was amazing. The smell of the room was rather inviting.....old oak and grease. I could probably bottle it and sell it at MAPS meetings. "Old Oak and Grease, by MicaMonster." It wouldn't attract people, just phonographs. :D

Just about every Victor phonograph had a gold spray painted soundbox from a cheap wind-up portable, every Edison cylinder player had a Model-C (instead of an Automatic, or even a Model-K), just about every Graphophone had a bad 70's reproduction reproducer that looked like it was cast in a box of Cheerio crumbs, and the amount of cabinets with re-drilled holes to accept mis-matched back brackets (without filling in the botched holes), was amazing.

Me, being the details-oriented little weasel that I am, made mental notes of everything WRONG that I found, and at the end of the romp, I found myself more than just a little disenchanted with the auction. I was ready to walk out cold. But, friends of mine showed up, and made it a good social occasion. Looking back in retrospect, this ultimately saved my soul. *a little*

I did a lot of technical analysis for folks, "holding court," some may call it. Stuff like, "that traveling arm is a repro," or "that crank goes to a Victor-E, not a Berliner," or "stand here...look at the finish....do you see what I see???", "this is a NICE one," "that's an EARLY one," "check out what happens when I push this button," and stuff like that. I'm a rotten nebbish. I felt bad being so critical and devoid of humor. For gosh sakes, this was one man's passionate hobby. And here I am, picking it all apart. I'm going to roast in aych-eey-el-el for that.

Large crowd attendance. I was expecting maybe 100, but looked to be over 225 (possibly 260) in attendance. Lots of the expected dealers (and usual suspects) showed up, and even they looked a little mystified by what they found. What surprised me was the large crowd of local folk that showed up, just to quench their curiosity. I met a lot of friendly people, and had lots of memorable conversations about non-phono stuff, if you can believe that!

Prices realized absolutely left me with my head spinning (both the HIGH and LOW prices!), after hearing from many on this board that the attendance and exchange of machines at Union was a little disappointing. I was expecting $2500 machines to sell for $1850. $500 machines to sell for $375. $8,000 machines to sell for $5000. And ye know what? Some of them DID. If you wanted a Victor 6 or an Edison Opera for a bargain basement price, you were at the right place. The gold plated Triumph (complete with its Edison signature plate) sold for less than $2000! That was the deal of the day, in my opinion. And the Class-M fetched $16,000, very respectable. I also felt that the juke boxes should have gone for more than a couple thousand each, I guess the buyers for those weren't in the gallery.

But (and this is a BIG BUT) there were A LOT of unexpected high (and HIGHER) bids on some items. Items which should have sold for $100-$750, sold for DOUBLE and TRIPLE their value. I understand that "it only takes two bidders," but some of the item prices were truly ridiculous. Wait...lemme re-type that: RIDICULOUS.

I came to buy and take home 5-6 machines. When each of them came up to bid, I was not only out-bid, but the bidding ran on into high digits that pushed my nerves so hard that I wanted to stand up and literally yell at the competing bidder, "WILL YOU PLEASE STOP! JUST STOP IT! STOP IT!!!!!!!"

This is the First Time at an auction that physical symptoms of being ill-at-ease manifested themselves. I broke out in hives on both of my arms, and sweat droplets rained down from my forehead, saturating my brow.

I think this happened to me, because I had thoroughly convinced myself that I was going to pay full price (and a little more), and bring these little gifts home for myself, and not for resale. I lost sleep over this auction 4 nights prior to leaving. I was stoked and focused, and didn't have a "Plan B" for my emotional state if I didn't win the items, because I was positive that I was going to be the crazy-bidder that "paid too much."

I am comfortable paying a little more than something is worth if I really want it. That is, more than its "book value," not emotional value (that's the wildcard).

I am the *CRAZY* Edison Diamond Disc collector, am I not? But sensibility does have its limits.

So, I left the auction EMPTY-HANDED. Ok, I did have a coffee stain on my shirt....so I did take something home other than my being emotionally deflated. Whole drive back I was downright sad.

I think the continuation auction on the 24th/25th is going to be AWESOME. Lots of real treasures will surface. And after all this drama, I still want to go back!!!!!!!!

-Mica

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You must have bought something with a repeater on it!
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JohnM wrote:You must have bought something with a repeater on it!
I bought nothing except a coffee, and a ham&cheese sandwich. :lol:
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Ah, the quiet joy of wanting, and in fact owning, just one machine!

BTW, where are you in the Adirondacks? I have a camp in Town of Colton, St. Lawrence County.

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Henry wrote:Ah, the quiet joy of wanting, and in fact owning, just one machine!

BTW, where are you in the Adirondacks? I have a camp in Town of Colton, St. Lawrence County.
That's where I'm at...just one Victrola for me, that's all I need!

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I placed some bids by phone - rather, had the opportunity and the calls were set up, but then ended up just sitting there, phone to ear, listening dumbfounded to the numbers called out by the auctioneer grow larger, larger, larger, etc. for example, I was amazed at the three keenophones, each of which as I recall reached close to 10k, if not more. a small Pathé reflex type machine (an elf) that I've seen sell for 500 to 700, on ebay and even through dealers, went for closer to 1300. many things that, at least from the photos, appeared to need some restoration sold for what most people here would consider retail for restored machines, and high retail at that. I was told by one of the people handling the bids that a number of things sold to a collector from florida and that guy from musical treasures of miami. I ended up with nothing as well, aside from a mild sense of satisfaction with my decision to not make the last minute seven-hour drive to NC after work friday night.

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MicaMonster wrote: Me, being the details-oriented little weasel that I am, :lol:

The gold plated Triumph (complete with its Edison signature plate) sold for less than $2000! :o
Perhaps because too much of the gold plating was lost.

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MicaMonster wrote:"WOW, what a DRIVE!"
So, I left the auction EMPTY-HANDED. Ok, I did have a coffee stain on my shirt....
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Wyatt, you are such a romantic! Nobody spins a story like you do, and winds it up with an anticlimax that should have been obvious, but always surprises me anyway! Your auction report reminds me of the story you told in the van on the way back from Union 5 years ago...remember? For 20 minutes we were set up... You were traveling in the mountains of Paraguay... You stayed with a peasant family whose 20 year-old daughter became quite smitten... You strolled the streets of Vienna with her, sharing pastries in a Parisian bistro... After a week or so of this blissful friendship, you two went for a long walk hand in hand through an orchard, and took shelter in a barn when it began to rain... And then... AND THEN... The rain stopped and you walked home - - and you left the next day. :lol: You're killing me... :lol:

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Oh, how I absolutely LUSTED after the Keen-O-Phones.

They are big though, but if I had the brass spheres to win them I would certainly knock a hole in the office wall and give them their own room.

Here is the condition report on the 3 Keen-O-Phones, and their selling prices:

Keen-O-Phone Model 25:

-Motorboard replaced with stained plywood piece. Original motor missing, but had small single spring motor from an inexpensive portable phonograph in its place, with an adapted crank. Remaining 3 plugged holes in side of cabinet (from someone trying to locate the correct hole for the replacement motor). Sold for $1600. A great price, considering the inlaid cabinet was in excellent original condition, and it has its complete original tone arm and reproducer. When the buyer finds a motor for this, this machine will be an absolute gem!

Keen-O-Phone Model 30 (later model):

-All original finish (some wood chips here and there), original and complete motor. Very nice wardrobe-style record storage. Original turntable felt intact in excellent shape. Spiral tone arm compleatly home-made from tin pipe and what looks like an elbow cuff from a floor model Victrola, sprayed in silver paint, with what looks like a generic soundbox with a Cheney diaphragm. Stationary spindle (non-tracking). Sold for $10,000.

Keenolophone Model 30 (earlier model):

-Low cabinet serial number of 152! Majority of cabinet has been refinished (very Very VERY old amateur refinishing job). Had two record drawers in cabinet compartment. VERY EARLY cast tone arm, painted gold with original hand painted floral decoration. Decal in excellent shape. Has its original motor, with tracking turntable (turntable moves laterally, driven by a feedscrew, under the soundbox). Ran nice, but chugged along a little. Had a Victrola crank escutcheon. Turntable felt new. Original crank missing. Had an "adapter" welded onto the motor to accept the included *gulp* Victrola VI crank. Grille was refinished, but for some reason didn't take stain well. Sold for $13,000.

No idea who won it.
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MicaMonster wrote:
JohnM wrote:You must have bought something with a repeater on it!
I bought nothing except a coffee, and a ham&cheese sandwich. :lol:
Just wait a while: maybe the ham & cheese sandwich will repeat on you (urp)..... ;)

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