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Victrola Grinding Noise
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Victrola Grinding Noise
I have fixed quite a few machines, But this one was in my grandmas basement, and I rescued it (she wanted to burn it). All of machines when they are full of winds you just can't crank any more... NOT THIS ONE, this one you just winding away... do da toot da do... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. it suddenly makes a loud grinding noise (loud enough to scare the crap out of you!) I oiled the mechanism good, and you can still play records on it (just be careful when winding) but I want to know what the heck that noise is! I thought maybe it was the ratchet mechanism, but the ratchet is not worn out at all.
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phonogal
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Re: Victrola Grinding Noise
Hi,
Welcome to the forum. I'm pretty new here too. You will find that the people here are very friendly and helpful. I'm sure someone will have the answer. I would guess that maybe you have a spring motor that has 2 or more springs and 1 is broken. This would explain why you can keep winding as the broken one never winds up completely but winds partially until it springs loose and unwinds making that awful noise. Just a quess. Maybe someone else knows for sure. Jan
Welcome to the forum. I'm pretty new here too. You will find that the people here are very friendly and helpful. I'm sure someone will have the answer. I would guess that maybe you have a spring motor that has 2 or more springs and 1 is broken. This would explain why you can keep winding as the broken one never winds up completely but winds partially until it springs loose and unwinds making that awful noise. Just a quess. Maybe someone else knows for sure. Jan
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gramophoneshane
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Re: Victrola Grinding Noise
It sounds like the main spring is slipping in the barrel.
If the spring is broken towards the outer end, you can normally wind them a little before enough energy builds up in the coils to allow the end (which is normally attached to the barrel) to release that energy by unwinding itself within the barrel. The grinding noise is usually the sound of solidified grease being ground between the coils as this happens.
The solution is to have the spring removed, old grease removed, and the spring replaced with new grease added.
If the break is only an inch or two from the end of the spring, it may be able to be repaired & reused, but any more than that, & repairs seldom work because the spring becomes too short & wont provide enough power to play through a record. In this case, a new spring of the proper length needs to be obtained.
If the spring is broken towards the outer end, you can normally wind them a little before enough energy builds up in the coils to allow the end (which is normally attached to the barrel) to release that energy by unwinding itself within the barrel. The grinding noise is usually the sound of solidified grease being ground between the coils as this happens.
The solution is to have the spring removed, old grease removed, and the spring replaced with new grease added.
If the break is only an inch or two from the end of the spring, it may be able to be repaired & reused, but any more than that, & repairs seldom work because the spring becomes too short & wont provide enough power to play through a record. In this case, a new spring of the proper length needs to be obtained.
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gramophoneshane
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Re: Victrola Grinding Noise
Sounds pretty right to me Janphonogal wrote:Hi,
Welcome to the forum. I'm pretty new here too. You will find that the people here are very friendly and helpful. I'm sure someone will have the answer. I would guess that maybe you have a spring motor that has 2 or more springs and 1 is broken. Thie would explain why you can keep winding as the broken one never winds up completely but winds partially until it springs loose and unwinds making that awful noise. Just a quess. Maybe someone else knows for sure. Jan
Occasionally the same problem occures if the stud on the barrel that normally hooks onto the spring end has become worn, or has pulled out from the barrel, but 9 times out of 10 a broken spring is to blame.