Some sound recording firsts

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Re: Some sound recording firsts

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A lot of these "Firsts" aren't so.

I've got a Victor album from 1929 "Stephen Foster Melodies" with a beautiful illustrated cover, and HMV was putting out Gilbert and Sullivan sets in the mid 20's with full color illustrated covers.

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phonogfp wrote:I'd dispute the first record catalog being Columbia's in 1891. Surely the Parkins & Gotto "List of Plates" in England predates that.
The Parkins and Gotto is credited as the first disc catalog, though from 1892.

First U.S. disc catalog being Berliner's, in 1895.
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estott wrote:A lot of these "Firsts" aren't so.

I've got a Victor album from 1929 "Stephen Foster Melodies" with a beautiful illustrated cover, and HMV was putting out Gilbert and Sullivan sets in the mid 20's with full color illustrated covers.
My fault. the 1939 Rodgers and Hart set is actually described is having the first pictorial cover, one that used an actual photograph.

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First recording made by a recognized musician, Josef Hoffman at Edison laboratories ca. 1887-1888

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First 'full size' electrically operated machine is claimed produced by the United States Gramophone Co. In 1894.


Except, at very least, the Edison Class M electrical phono predates that, and I don't see how it wasn't a 'full size' machine.

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Wolfe wrote: the 1939 Rodgers and Hart set is actually described is having the first pictorial cover, one that used an actual photograph.
I cant help but wonder if this is even true.
The Gramophone Co were using photographs on record sleeves at least as early as 1911, as seen below on this Zonophone "Grand Opera" series sleeve. There may well be some early record albums floating around which received a similar treatment?
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Wolfe wrote:First recording made by a recognized musician, Josef Hoffman at Edison laboratories ca. 1887-1888
This is an often repeated hoax. Josef Hofmann first saw and heard a phonograph in November 1889 at the Berlin Urania. He first recorded on a water motor Class M phonograph in March 1890 at his Berlin home. The phonograph, together with two dozen musical cylinders and fifty blanks, was presented to Hofmann by Edison. Since many years I am looking for this instrument.

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Wolfe wrote: Recording royalties : Paid to Francesco Tamagno for his Gramophone Co. recordings in 1902
(Fill in this:) Paid to music hall performer Albert Chevalier for his Gramophone Co. recordings in 1899.

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The Image of the "Zonophone Grand Opera no 5" belongs to me - Shane uses it with Permission - i do like the Watermark !

However i doubt it will stop the Copyright Thieves of the CLPGS who used the above image of Ernest Pike - suitably Photoshopped ! in the latest issue of their sad mag

THEY did NOT have permission and i have started legal proceedings

A warning to all !

I always give permission if asked - is only simple courtesy after all

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