78s and their paper covers

[Emerson]

I am a collector that always try to store records with their respective original paper covers (or sleeves, as some prefers). I think it would be interesting to create a topic where any doubts about the records and their original covers could be discussed and illustrated.
For example, I have a doubt about the Edison Bell/Winner and Parlophone labels pictured below. Can anyone post its original covers?







Thank you
Emerson

[gramophoneshane]

These are the correct sleeves for those labels as far as I'm aware.

The Winner sleeve is definately correct as I've found quite a few of that label in this sleeve, but have only found a couple of the earlier more fragile sleeves with earlier labels.

The Parlophone sleeve I'm fairly certain is correct for this label, but although I have quite a few "super rhythm-style" series discs, this is the one & only sleeve that any of them came in.
This sleeve is quite thin & fragile compared to the Australian & other British sleeves I have, so I assume that's why my other discs with this label came without sleeves.
Both the sleeve & label list London as the address on these too, where as the slightly later (early 50s?) English sleeves I have say Hayes Middlesex & Made in GT Britain instead of London.
I'm pretty confident this label & sleeve belong together, but imported British discs & sleeves made after 1927 are nowhere near as common as our own Australian pressings, & I'm certainly no expert on British discs & sleeves, so there is a possibility that the sleeve below belongs to the earlier blue & gold label (which I dont have), & not the blue & white label that's pictured in it.
There also may be a "dance &/or variety" series label that I've never seen before.
Perhaps one of our British members will know for sure?

[JHolmesesq]

How strange. I was just looking through my record collection now, and I came across the same design as the Parlophone, only with Columbia's branding all over it.

I found another Parlophone sleeve, and an Italian Columbia which I thought would be nice to share

[gramophoneshane]

I would say your Columbia D&V series sleeve probably belongs to the lael below, and similar series labels.



I'm guessing your Parlophone sleeve was a generic sleeve (though one I haven't seen before) used to advertise the "new" Rhythm Style series introduced in 1929, that may have been used with any Parlophone pressing, including the purple label Rhythm Style (below) & red label British Ethnic series it advertises.
I'm fairly certain that the general design used on your sleeve was dropped around the time of the 1931 EMI merger, so wouldn't have been in use by mid 1932 when the second series with the blue and gold label was released.



Your record itself is a post 1935 pressing of the 1932 series, as the horn gramophone behing the Lindstrom "£" was dropped from the trademark in early 1936. Earlier pressing of this & other series also had labels printed on blue paper, as shown by the label pictured below.

[Emerson]

Thank you so much to users gramophoneshane and JHolmesesq for their valuable information. I was in doubt about the Winner cover, despite some different patterns I saw in other sites that possibly could match with this label. I am still in doubt about the Parlophone, because of a small detail:

Sometimes the "??" appears with a gramophone in the background:




and sometimes, withhout:






Shouldn't the paper covers follow the same pattern? Also, any information about the use of the symbol with and without the gramophone?
Thank you
Emerson

[Guest]

Hi
the dance and variety sleeves cover the HMV BD series,the Columbia FB series,and the parlophone F series,these were introduced at the beginning of 1935 at a retail price of 1 shilling and sixpence 7 ½ p

[Lucius1958]

Just for fun, here's a Conqueror and its picturesque sleeve...

Conqueror sleeve

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