Need Help with Crank Identification???

[flashpanblue]

Hello,
I have what I believe is an early Columbia crank. It is the slotted type and the shank measures 3 ½ inches long. What model or models do you think it was used on. I have been using it on an Edison Model A and it worked well. I recently bought the correct crank for the Edison off ebay.
thanks
Pete

[Jerry B.]

I think it went to a machine made by the AMERICAN GRAPHOPHONE COMPANY (don't want any cranky old babes after me) for use on a machine without a spring barrel. Without a spring barrel, the winding shaft turns backwards. If the machine used a crank with just a slot, the crank would wind backwards and possibly interfere with the record. The crank in the photo is designed to slightly turn backwards and then slip on the winding shaft and the heavy knob end will fall to the lowest position of the crank rotation. I hope that makes sense. The crank appears long enough to go through a cabinet so I'd guess it went to something like a Standard Type X disk machine. Jerry Blais

[flashpanblue]

Hi Jerry,
Thanks for the reply and your information. I was looking through The Columbia Phonograph Companion Volume 1 and if you look on page 98 there is a picture of a Columbia AG. It shows a crank in the picture that is close to the one I have. What do you think???
thanks
Pete Stratford

[phonojim]

That will fit a number of early A series Columbias, some of which had barrels. It will definitely fit an AG.

Jim

[Lucius1958]

Without a spring barrel, the winding shaft turns backwards.

Actually, the winding shaft will turn backwards on some machines with spring barrels as well (e.g. the AT)....

Bill

[Orthophonic]

Looks like one for a Standard that was made by Columbia.

[phonogfp]

I think it went to a machine made by the AMERICAN GRAPHOPHONE COMPANY (don't want any cranky old babes after me) for use on a machine without a spring barrel.

Looks like one for a Standard that was made by Columbia.

How would you two like to clean the erasers after school?!

Grannie

[Jerry B.]

I've learned my lesson. Jerry

[Orthophonic]

How would you two like to clean the erasers after school?!

Grannie[/quote]
What does that mean?

[phonogfp]

Sorry - I thought you (along with Jerry) were ribbing me after my compulsion to point out in another thread that Columbia didn't manufacture Graphophones, but rather the American Graphophone Co. I thought my nit-picking made me seem like a grouchy old lady... Well, it seemed funny at the time...!

George P.