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Berliner and Nipper?
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FloridaClay
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Berliner and Nipper?
What' with a Berliner record with a Nipper logo on the back. I thought that Nipper postdated Berliner?
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Arthur W. J. G. Ord-Hume's Laws of Collecting
1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.
1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.
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epigramophone
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Re: Berliner and Nipper?
The "His Master's Voice" painting was purchased by The Gramophone Company in 1899. Emile Berliner saw the picture whilst in London and took out a United States copyright on it in July 1900.
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estott
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Re: Berliner and Nipper?
The Berliner Gram-O-Phone Co was for a time the Canadian branch of Victor- aside from their own models I've seen their name plates on Victor machines.
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FloridaClay
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Re: Berliner and Nipper?
Ah! That would explain it.estott wrote:The Berliner Gram-O-Phone Co was for a time the Canadian branch of Victor- aside from their own models I've seen their name plates on Victor machines.
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Arthur W. J. G. Ord-Hume's Laws of Collecting
1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.
1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.
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Wolfe
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Re: Berliner and Nipper?
Which carried over to the brown record pressings the bear the Victor labels. I have some of those.estott wrote:The Berliner Gram-O-Phone Co was for a time the Canadian branch of Victor- aside from their own models I've seen their name plates on Victor machines.
Lenoirstreetguy could probably give you all the details if he decides to pop in here.
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FloridaClay
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Re: Berliner and Nipper?
A little quick and dirty Google research indicates that the Berliner name was used on the records in Canada all the way to 1924!
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Arthur W. J. G. Ord-Hume's Laws of Collecting
1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.
1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.
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Wolfe
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Re: Berliner and Nipper?
There are a lot of classical / opera black shellac red label Berliner / Victors floating around.
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epigramophone
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Re: Berliner and Nipper?
It is perhaps worth adding that The Gramophone Company was remarkably slow to exploit Nipper's full advertising potential. They continued to use their existing "Recording Angel" trademark on record labels until 1909, when Nipper finally took over.epigramophone wrote:The "His Master's Voice" painting was purchased by The Gramophone Company in 1899. Emile Berliner saw the picture whilst in London and took out a United States copyright on it in July 1900.
The rest, as they say, is history......
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Starkton
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Re: Berliner and Nipper?
That is not true, as far as I know. The Berliner Gramophone Co. of Canada was an independent company, much the same as the Gramophone & Typewriter Ltd. in Europe. Both companies were important customers of the Victor Talking Machine Co.estott wrote:The Berliner Gram-O-Phone Co was for a time the Canadian branch of Victor.
All these companies were licensed by Emile Berliner to use his patents in the respective countries.
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Starkton
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Re: Berliner and Nipper?
In contrary. The Gramophone Co. was fully aware of its advertising potential, and exploited the “His Master's Voice” picture extensively from January 1900, when it first showed up in a record catalogue.epigramophone wrote: It is perhaps worth adding that The Gramophone Company was remarkably slow to exploit Nipper's full advertising potential.