Santa was a little early this year...

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Santa was a little early this year...

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Got my auction winnings from Nauck's a few days ago...

And just today, came home with a C250 for $100! :D

Of course, it's going to need some extensive veneer repair around the bottom of the case; but otherwise in good condition.

It looks to be a fairly early one: the patent plate is marked 'SM', and the medallion has the rather lengthy caption, "The $250 Diamond Disc Phonograph is the Official Laboratory Model - Thos. A. Edison"

However, it has the drawers for record storage, which, according to Frow, were introduced in early 1919. Could that be an error on his part?

Also, I learned an important lesson:

A C250 case (minus casters) will just fit into the back seat of a Toyota Corolla.... 8-)

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Be sure to take some before and after photos and give us a look. I thought all C-250's had drawers and some early C-19's but what do I know? Jerry

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C-250 has drawers, C-19 has dividers.
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Thanks! :)

A couple of other early features I noticed:

. Motor has a drip pan (discontinued about Feb. 1916).
. Feed rack is screwed onto frame, rather than one piece (changed by 1916).

SN is 7265.

So, I'm guessing first month or so of production?

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As requested, here are the "Before" photos of the case:
Front looks pretty good...
Front looks pretty good...
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Here's where the veneer problems begin...
Here's where the veneer problems begin...
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My plan is to cannibalize the veneer off the back; then put new veneer there...
My plan is to cannibalize the veneer off the back; then put new veneer there...
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And the left side...
And the left side...
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So: looking forward to this project! :)

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Well, I finally got the cabinet finished on the C-250...

My original plan of cannibalizing veneer from the back had to be revised, as I found out veneer doesn't come off that easily.

Fortunately, I found a single 2'x4' sheet would provide me enough material for my needs (indeed, enough to compensate for my mistakes on the back - where I figured I should make most of them). For backing, I used some surplus oak veneer...

Some careful work with aniline stain (after an unsuccessful trial of gel stain) and further glazing, managed to get the color reasonably matched - although the join between old and new veneer will always be visible.

The following photos may not be the best quality; but I hope they give a general sense of the restoration.

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Looks great! The veneer is adhered to the surface with hide glue, which softens and releases by exposure to water vapor ('steam').
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Bill, Where did you get your surplus veneer from?

Anyone know who deals in surplus replacement veneer now?

I could use a few new contacts for replacement veneer.

Thanks,

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Re the veneer - I reveneered a C-250 long time back - was stored in a garage and the gentleman's mother-in-law wanted it out so during the summer she would spray it with a hose. Most of the cabinet veneer was trash. It worked great so $50.

I use/used Bob Morgan for veneer. Good service and has the wood backed veneer which is the same thickness,1/16th I believe. Not cheap but not terribly expensive, excellent service. Receive his catalog every year.

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"I use/used Bob Morgan for veneer."

Ok, How about his phone number, e-mail address or website info....????


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