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Need help identifying a little cylinder machine - Thanks

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I picked up this little cylinder machine over the weekend and have no idea what I purchased. Where was it made and who was the manufacturer? What's my best bet for a horn and reproducer? Any help would be appreciated. Jerry Blais
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Puck?????

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This is the nearest match I can find, similar but not identical.

I would guess French or German, but finding the missing parts you need will not be easy. Good luck!
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Should be German rather than French. The same one was sold during the Cotton auction (#117) as "Skylark Kasten Puck" (700usd).

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Looks like all you need is the horn and reproducer. Jean-Paul Agnard sells reproductions here:

http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=phonog ... tion%2Ehtm


Scroll to the bottom of the page where is says "Reproduction Parts and Reprints." Click on that.
See items #7 and #8.

Good luck!

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Congratulations! Yes, this seems to be one of the more upscale versions of the popular European Puck phonograph. Usually they turn up with a cast metal lyre base. Siren, scroll and lions head bases were also available. Yours pretty much has the same mechanics, but is mounted on a box with a lid. Horn options were nickelled, aluminum or flower horns. In Germany many call them "Kastenpuck" because of that box (Kasten is the German word for Box). These were available with pretty elaborate designs, either nickel plated or painted like yours. Kastenpucks are not as common as Pucks and therefore more desireable. Reproducer and horn were missing on my Puck as well. Jean-Paul Agnard's reproductions are very nice and work well. Unfortunately nobody makes reproductions of the Puck flower horn. George Carette & Co. from Nuernberg, Germany was one of the larger makers. Please see below a page from a Carette catalog.
Please share pictures when you have it complete.
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Another Carette ad. Check the casting carefully, you may find "C.G." hidden somewhere, which would identify it as a Carette.
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Thanks for all the help. I not only know what it is but I know where to order the missing parts. Thanks, Jerry Blais

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Jerry
Your string on your puck has to criss cross in order to play the 2 min cylinder. Very nice machine. I have one of the bird patterns also in black there was also a nickel plated one.
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Kevan, Thanks for pointing out the incorrect string. In forty years of collecting this is the first string driven machine I've owned. The parts have been ordered and I'll pick them up at Union. Is there a secret for tying the string so the knot is not an issue? Thanks, Jerry

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