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Auction gold--now what?
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theoldlefthander
- Victor Jr
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Re: Auction gold--now what?
Hi. VV XI Mahogany to resemble Walnut. The ribbed wood pattern is a give away. VV XI are real common. Everyone has a junk pile. I'll look through mine. Easy fix!!
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FloridaClay
- Victor VI
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Re: Auction gold--now what?
Looks like the Edison just needs some new veneer. Not something I've tried, but am sure there are others here who can give you some tips. Is the underlying wood sound?
Clay
Clay
Arthur W. J. G. Ord-Hume's Laws of Collecting
1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.
1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.
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Mr Grumpy
- Victor III
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Re: Auction gold--now what?
Yes, the grain looks Mahogany for sure.
Nice cars in the background. It looks like a 1930's gangster chop shop!
Nice cars in the background. It looks like a 1930's gangster chop shop!
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welshfield
- Victor II
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Re: Auction gold--now what?
Thanks for the input so far.
VV-XI. Mahogany made to resemble walnut. Ok then. I of course will not harm this cabinet and will just await the right opportunity to snap up a junker with the needed parts. I did contact George Vollema and he confirmed what I thought, that buying parts from a vendor would just be too expensive given the ultimate value of the machine. The cabinet itself needs practically nothing to be presentable.
Edison S-19. Yes the base wood of the cabinet is quite sound. It does just need new venier, which I can do. In fact, aside from a missing strip of trim at the bottom of the record-compartment door, the cabinet is not in bad condition other than the venier issue. All the record dividers are in place and seem to be in good shape. All it needs mechanically is the bakelite knob covering for the engage/disengage lever up front, which I can machine up quite easily I am sure, if I don't locate an original.
I took those photos in my "Victory Barn," which houses my collection of 1928 Dodge Brothers Victory Six cars --my other passtime. Three cars (in the background in some of the photos, probably suggesting the "chop shop" theme) need to be restored but I do the work elsewhere. Four to seven others (depending on whether or not my sons have them for the summer or not) are road ready. (absolutely stock, showroom quality--street rod is a very dirty word around here, thank you). Most all different body styles or variations. I have the barn decorated as a 1920s dealer showroom with appropriate furniture, typewriter, phone, comptometer, fake potted 20s-style ferns, and much else. Either my Ipad or some CDs play records from my collection that were recorded only during the calendar year of 1928, to keep the cars calm and amused.
The two phonographs are probably there for the summer weather, or until I get them housebroken. However I have no heat out there so all that stuff (except the cars) comes in the house for the Ohio winter weather.
VV-XI. Mahogany made to resemble walnut. Ok then. I of course will not harm this cabinet and will just await the right opportunity to snap up a junker with the needed parts. I did contact George Vollema and he confirmed what I thought, that buying parts from a vendor would just be too expensive given the ultimate value of the machine. The cabinet itself needs practically nothing to be presentable.
Edison S-19. Yes the base wood of the cabinet is quite sound. It does just need new venier, which I can do. In fact, aside from a missing strip of trim at the bottom of the record-compartment door, the cabinet is not in bad condition other than the venier issue. All the record dividers are in place and seem to be in good shape. All it needs mechanically is the bakelite knob covering for the engage/disengage lever up front, which I can machine up quite easily I am sure, if I don't locate an original.
I took those photos in my "Victory Barn," which houses my collection of 1928 Dodge Brothers Victory Six cars --my other passtime. Three cars (in the background in some of the photos, probably suggesting the "chop shop" theme) need to be restored but I do the work elsewhere. Four to seven others (depending on whether or not my sons have them for the summer or not) are road ready. (absolutely stock, showroom quality--street rod is a very dirty word around here, thank you). Most all different body styles or variations. I have the barn decorated as a 1920s dealer showroom with appropriate furniture, typewriter, phone, comptometer, fake potted 20s-style ferns, and much else. Either my Ipad or some CDs play records from my collection that were recorded only during the calendar year of 1928, to keep the cars calm and amused.
The two phonographs are probably there for the summer weather, or until I get them housebroken. However I have no heat out there so all that stuff (except the cars) comes in the house for the Ohio winter weather.
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Steve
- Victor VI
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Re: Auction gold--now what?
The VV-XI is definitely not walnut, but mahogany! 
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FloridaClay
- Victor VI
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Re: Auction gold--now what?
Hope you will post a pic of some of the finished Dodges in their display setting. Sounds really neat!
Clay
Clay
Arthur W. J. G. Ord-Hume's Laws of Collecting
1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.
1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.
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dutchman
- Victor IV
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Re: Auction gold--now what?
Definitely have some interesting projects going. I had a 28 Dodge Bros Victory Six for awhile. Gave away a demountable rim to a fellow owner years ago. Own a 30 A Roadster (stock) and 64 Impala Convt presently.
I have veneered several machines over the years and numerous Lids. I use 1/16 wood backed veneer from Bob Morgan Veneers. Just type Bob Morgan Veneer in your browser.
Good luck on the machines.
I have veneered several machines over the years and numerous Lids. I use 1/16 wood backed veneer from Bob Morgan Veneers. Just type Bob Morgan Veneer in your browser.
Good luck on the machines.
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Retrograde
- Victor III
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Re: Auction gold--now what?
The pictures aren't the best, but I'm going with mahogany as well. Can't tell if the finish has been mucked about or not. Given that it's missing just about everything, I wouldn't believe the finish is original. Note too that the shelves are missing. A donor machine is the only cost effective way to put this one back together.Steve wrote:The VV-XI is definitely not walnut, but mahogany!
Here is what a walnut XI would look like.
LFTD does not mention walnut, but the victor-victrola page mentions it for later years.