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Help with springs - Videos and photos

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My gramophone plays 78 in Fast. Can be problem with spring?
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It's the governor !

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Yes, it is the governor - I had the same problem with a pot metal governor (see my posting on the other thread - not even Caruso could hold a steady note with that. Get a brass HMV 102 governor and your problems will go away.

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After looking at your video, I really think you should just look at adjusting the speed control plate under the turntable. Here is a picture that might help in adjusting your speed control:
HMV 102 speed control detail.jpg

I think if you can slide the plate slightly to the right after loosening the screws A and B you'll find there's room for adjustment until you end up with the speed indicator centered on 78.
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soundgen wrote:It's the governor !
Is it? Looking at the video, the governor seems to move quite freely when the lever is moved.
Ian

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barnettrp21122 wrote:After looking at your video, I really think you should just look at adjusting the speed control plate under the turntable. Here is a picture that might help in adjusting your speed control:
HMV 102 speed control detail.jpg

I think if you can slide the plate slightly to the right after loosening the screws A and B you'll find there's room for adjustment until you end up with the speed indicator centered on 78.
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See working in "fast". Then I show a video with the proposed amendments. Thank you!

[youtubehq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLPgAEjG024[/youtubehq]

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Don't you have the speed control set on "fast"? What happens if you move the control to the something in between?

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JerryVan wrote:Don't you have the speed control set on "fast"? What happens if you move the control to the something in between?
Hi, If I move to the mid (78s), plays a bit slow...

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sorry but it is still the governor ! been there done that ! take the governor out , remove the spindle , either file inside the pot metal governor to remove sticking points ( they are there )or get some valve grinding paste and place on the spindle and work the spindle in and out of the pot metal part 50 to 100 times , remove all grinding paste ( ear buddies and lots of oil ) and reassemble and it will work perfectly !

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soundgen wrote:sorry but it is still the governor ! been there done that ! take the governor out , remove the spindle , either file inside the pot metal governor to remove sticking points ( they are there )or get some valve grinding paste and place on the spindle and work the spindle in and out of the pot metal part 50 to 100 times , remove all grinding paste ( ear buddies and lots of oil ) and reassemble and it will work perfectly !
I've tried to take it from there but I can't get out! :cry: how can I get the que pillars support it, Appear to be bolted! What can I do to pull out? Can you explain the picture I sent? :roll: Thank you very much! :D

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