HMV 102 generic? What's this model?

[dilhermandodidi]

Please, help me to identifying this model:
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Thank very much!

[soundgen]

it is a Columbia Model 9000 equivalent to an HMV 102 , it should have a circular Columbia pad in the lid , I take it this must be missing for you to think it is an HMV machine ?

[estott]

At that point Columbia portables were nearly the same as HMV portables, so the confusion is understandable.

[Phono48]

it is a Columbia Model 9000 equivalent to an HMV 102 , it should have a circular Columbia pad in the lid , I take it this must be missing for you to think it is an HMV machine ?

Sorry, Soundgen, but with respects, the 9000 doesn't have the circular plaque in the lid, that's the 206, which is identical, except that it doesn't have the chromium wings at the lid/base angle, has a different lid stay arrangement, and a 102 style turntable, with the straight edge, but covered in velvet instead of the usual felt.

[soundgen]

it is a Columbia Model 9000 equivalent to an HMV 102 , it should have a circular Columbia pad in the lid , I take it this must be missing for you to think it is an HMV machine ?

Sorry, Soundgen, but with respects, the 9000 doesn't have the circular plaque in the lid, that's the 206, which is identical, except that it doesn't have the chromium wings at the lid/base angle, has a different lid stay arrangement, and a 102 style turntable, with the straight edge, but covered in velvet instead of the usual felt.[/quote

Ok , so what is missing in the lid so there isn't a Columbia decal , a record folder ? It's a long time since I had one of these for sale , I guess thay are quite rare?

[soundgen]

Oh it just has a logo on the back rather like the HMV 102 Export models . so presumably the rexine and transfer are missing ?

[dilhermandodidi]

it is a Columbia Model 9000 equivalent to an HMV 102 , it should have a circular Columbia pad in the lid , I take it this must be missing for you to think it is an HMV machine ?

Hi, this is because the seller does not photographed the top, so I was confused because of the similarity between this model and Hmv 102. Thank you, helps a lot!!!

[dilhermandodidi]

At that point Columbia portables were nearly the same as HMV portables, so the confusion is understandable.

Thank you! I just now understanding the connection between Columbia and HMV.

[dilhermandodidi]

it is a Columbia Model 9000 equivalent to an HMV 102 , it should have a circular Columbia pad in the lid , I take it this must be missing for you to think it is an HMV machine ?

Sorry, Soundgen, but with respects, the 9000 doesn't have the circular plaque in the lid, that's the 206, which is identical, except that it doesn't have the chromium wings at the lid/base angle, has a different lid stay arrangement, and a 102 style turntable, with the straight edge, but covered in velvet instead of the usual felt.

Thank you! I had never seen this model, then got confused.

[epigramophone]

At that point Columbia portables were nearly the same as HMV portables, so the confusion is understandable.

Thank you! I just now understanding the connection between Columbia and HMV.

In case you are not aware of their history, Columbia and HMV merged in 1931 to form EMI.

After that date their portables became increasingly similar, until there was little but the badging to distinguish them, a process known in the motor industry as "badge engineering".