WANTED: Leather Elbow Clamp

[Zwebie]

I'm looking for the clamp that holds the leather elbow to the throat of the reproducer on early machines. Original or reproduction would be fine.

Also, still looking for Early Berliner/Victor Brake in either of these two styles

Thanks, Bob S.

[Le0]

Hi, check with this guy on Ebay, he has lots of nice repro parts so he might have what you need. http://www.ebay.com/sch/ladanjus/m.html ... 7675.l2562

[gramophone78]

Sorry, the man that did make these parts has retired and "if" your lucky....you may find one on Ebay that he made. They do come up sometimes. I have seen original elbow clamps sell (on Ebay) for over $1100!!!!... . Just nuts if you ask me. BTW, the brake you show in the bottom picture is a "late" Canadian "trade-mark" brake. It was used on one other Canadian model "but" only in Canada. The US version is different.

[Zwebie]

BTW, the brake you show in the bottom picture is a "late" Canadian "trade-mark" brake. It was used on one other Canadian model "but" only in Canada. The US version is different.

That's correct! My machine that needs the brake is an Early Canadian Berliner Model A.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank You, Bob S.

[gramophone78]

BTW, the brake you show in the bottom picture is a "late" Canadian "trade-mark" brake. It was used on one other Canadian model "but" only in Canada. The US version is different.

That's correct! My machine that needs the brake is an Early Canadian Berliner Model A.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank You, Bob S.

Not sure if this will help. The brake you show first was used on the first Canadian models (as they were also being used in the US). This brake,along with the other metal parts (motor included) were shipped up from Johnson in the US. Only the wood components were made in Canada during the first year. By serial # 5123, the brake was redesigned to the one you show at the bottom. This was done so that a larger record could be played....up to 10" and still be able to use the brake. The early brake's lever knob position would not allow this and would also rub against the underside of the record. There are in fact two slightly different versions of the later brake.
One last piece of info......the "A" designation on the machine's plate did not start to appear until the #2500-#2800 mark.
Prior, the number was branded on the wood base and the white metal plate left "blank" after the word "Type". So, depending on your serial number.....is the brake you will need to locate.
I hope this helps in your search.

[Zwebie]

BTW, the brake you show in the bottom picture is a "late" Canadian "trade-mark" brake. It was used on one other Canadian model "but" only in Canada. The US version is different.

That's correct! My machine that needs the brake is an Early Canadian Berliner Model A.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank You, Bob S.

Not sure if this will help. The brake you show first was used on the first Canadian models (as they were also being used in the US). This brake,along with the other metal parts (motor included) were shipped up from Johnson in the US. Only the wood components were made in Canada during the first year. By serial # 2100, the brake was redesigned to the one you show at the bottom. This was done so that a larger record could be played....up to 10" and still be able to use the brake. The early brake's lever knob position would not allow this and would also rub against the underside of the record. There are in fact two slightly different versions of the later brake.
One last piece of info......the "A" designation on the machine's plate did not start to appear until the #2500-#2800 mark.
Prior, the number was branded on the wood base and the white metal plate left "blank" after the word "Type". So, depending on your serial number.....is the brake you will need to locate.
I hope this helps in your search.

Gramophone78,
Well, according to the serial #A4788 on my machine, looks like I need the second brake. But, since my machine has the reproducer support, which would prevent playing larger records, maybe it came with the earlier brake?
I think I would be happy if I could find either brake, since both would work.
As always, any leads would be appreciated, Thanks, Bob S.

[gramophone78]

I'm very sorry. I just realized I made a typo. The earliest Canadian trade-mark I have seen with the later brake was #5123.....not #2100 (now corrected). Around the #5000 series is when the flat arm with red decal was changed to a vertical placed wood arm. You will also find some TM's where a previous owner removed the top screw of the early arm rest. This was to allow the rest to drop. Then, the owner could fit a larger record onto the table. A can't prove that some owners ordered (later) the later brake and swapped it out. Again, to allow playing a larger record. Therefore, you may find a early machine with a late brake. Of course any machine with a reproduction brake may be incorrect. I have kept #16,200 (1902-03) in my collection. I hope to one day find a model with a higher number.

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