Questions about Standard/Columbia front mount elbow

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Questions about Standard/Columbia front mount elbow

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I just noticed on eBay that on a pretty well preserved open works Standard Talking Machine the horn elbow seems to be fixed to the horn with a little thumbscrew. I checked on my Standard X and sure enough, there is a little hole in the bottom of the elbow that I never paid attention to. Does anyone know if there originally was a thumbscrew (or other screw) to fix the elbow to the horn? See attached pictures.

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Yes, there was a screw that fitted into the elbow. They had a knurled head with no slot, similar to a thumb screw. These are frequently missing. I have one in all of my collection of Columbia front mounts. I'd love to get more. Does anyone know if they are being reproduced?
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Thanks for the information Harvey. Would any of the reproducer thumbscrews work, or are they too small?
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Hi, I'm taking a machinist course and I'm sure I could make repro screws at school.
I just started monday but if you can wait a little, I'd like to help you with this.
PM me if interested. :)
Machines I own: Edison Standard A, suitcase Home, Home A, Triumph A & B, Columbia type BS, Standard Model A, Victor E, IV & V, Pathéphone No.4

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The reproducer thumbscrew is way to small. The Columbia elbow screw looks like the thumbscrew, but much bigger. I don't know the thread size, but I'm sure Leo can find out when he starts school.
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alang wrote:Thanks for the information Harvey. Would any of the reproducer thumbscrews work, or are they too small?
Andreas

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Phonofreak wrote:Yes, there was a screw that fitted into the elbow. They had a knurled head with no slot, similar to a thumb screw. These are frequently missing. I have one in all of my collection of Columbia front mounts. I'd love to get more. Does anyone know if they are being reproduced?
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I have used the brass ones used for holding glass globes in light fixtures. I do not recall the thread size right now.
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I thought the same thing. I tried them, but they are to big. They look similar, though.
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Phonofreak wrote:I thought the same thing. I tried them, but they are to big. They look similar, though.
Harvey Kravitz
I think I used them on the reproductions that Jerry Madsen sold. I tapped the hole to fit the screw.
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If you are interested, I made up a few for sale in the Yankee Trader section.
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