Brunswick 117 upright - missing speed control...

[De Soto Frank]

I am working on a Brunswick 117 upright, that is missing its speed control knob and whatever secures it to the bed-plate / motor-board.

I am guessing this is a later machine... I just bought a really rusty motorboard minus spring barrels from e-bay just to get the speed control, but it is different.

So, here are some pictures from my machine - perhaps someone can identify the motor model / speed control pieces that I need...

Machine is a B-wick model 117, s/n 188111, motor # 19560 ( four-spring ).

[gramophone78]

What you need are one of these and the set screw....I believe. You could try placing an ad on our Yankee Trader.

[De Soto Frank]

May I use your photograph ?

[gramophone78]

Of course. That's why I posted it.... .

[De Soto Frank]

Thank you very much !

[marcapra]

That motor board looks just like the motor board on my Brunswick Cortez, although mine is AC/DC. Yours look like it's been repainted as it's missing the large patents decal. Is yours an Ultona model?

[De Soto Frank]

Hi Mark,

Mine is an Ultona model... as far as I can tell, aside from having some parts missing ( speed control knob, volume control slider stem rod, knob and escutcheon), I believe this machine is untouched.

Attached is a picture of the full bed-plate. The rectangular tag to the right of the spindle says " Pat applied for ", then has the motor # stamped into it.


Is your Cortez a "Panatrope" ?

I can't wait to get a copy of Mr. Wakefield's Brunswick book...

[marcapra]

In answer to your question, Is my Cortez a Panatrope?, that is a tricky question. When Brunswick first brought out the exponential type acoustic phonographs AFTER bringing out all-electronic Panatropes in 1925, they did not call them Panatropes because of possible confusion with the electronic models. Instead, they used Spanish model names like Victrola did, such as Madrid, Seville, Cortez, and Valencia. Later, they dropped the names and used letters and numbers to designate the models, much as Victrola did. But all Cortez models, which are the top of the acoustic line, were always called "Cortez" and competed directly with Victrola's Credenza. The word Panatrope is not on it. For a very short time, Brunswick came up with the name "Prismatone" to call these models, but dropped it, and just called them "Panatrope Exponential Type". The Cortez is a rare model that I think was only made in 1926. It never got a letter/number designation, and that is why they are so rare today in comparison to the Credenza. Why did Brunswick drop the Cortez? I think they were concentrating on their radio/phono models which they saw as being the future. Oh, by the way, did you know that R.J.Wakeman's Brunswick book is available now on the APS site under articles?

[De Soto Frank]

Wow. I did not know nay of that detail... I had always assumed that all of Brunwsick's Orthophonic-equivalent machines were yclept "Panatrope"...

I am increasingly intrigued by Brunswick, and believe that will be the next focus of my collecting...


Frank

[RAK402]

Frank,

I am with you on the Brunswick machines.

Very interesting, well made, and great sounding. Also a bit different.

I know that my Seville's badge does not say "Panatrope" on it, yet it is alluded to that it is a "Panatrope" in some of the advertising (at least, that is how I interpreted it).

marcapra's excellent comments now shed light on things-I did wonder why the word Panatrope was absent from the badge.

It does appear on the model 106 portable.