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Re: Questions about Canadian Berliner VV-VI
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:19 pm
by whoopinola
My VV-VI , also a Berliner Gramophone machine , probably sold in the Windsor Ont region has s/n...583169.....My VV-XII , a Berliner Gramophone , sold by Grinnel Bros in Windsor , a post Jan 1910 with the carved case has s/n 3790A.....how do these numbers compare with the US sold machines?
Re: Questions about Canadian Berliner VV-VI
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:21 pm
by gramophone78
I thought I would post these pics here. This is a 100% original "Canadian" Berliner horn for a front mount machine. In this case it was on a Berliner "F". This is the first time I have ever seen or heard of a horn like this that was another color (green) other than black. This is just like the horns used also on US Victor models. It shows you how Berliner was doing "his" own thing up here.
What a beautiful horn indeed.

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Re: Questions about Canadian Berliner VV-VI
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:32 am
by alang
A beautiful horn, I'll trade you my VV-VI for it.
Thank you very much everyone for your information. Could someone please post a close up picture of the screw that goes into this oiling hole?
Regarding the serial numbers, since several members here seem to have Canadian Victrolas without the C prefix, maybe they only used that for machines that were produced or assembled in Canada, like those with the unique tonearms or other unique parts? I'll check the serial numbers mentioned above in the Victor Data Book if they fit in the US numbering range. Of course to be really certain one would have to also compare all the individual features like tonearm type, motor, brake, etc.
Thanks again
Andreas
Re: Questions about Canadian Berliner VV-VI
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:35 am
by phonogfp
That really is a striking horn! It's too bad there wasn't more color in the horns of front-mount disc machines.
George P.