Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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vic160
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Re: Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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OMG I could just cry. A good artist could recreate the outside paintings but......

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Re: Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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It's the stuff phonographic nightmares are made of ...

So here is some reading kind of in a like theme
http://www.daltonvoorburg.nl/file/5147/ ... easure.doc

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Re: Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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Too bad... that machine went from a $2000+ machine to a freak show. If someone buys it, I can send photos to show how it should look to help with restoration.

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Re: Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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estott wrote:Y'think someone might have tried cleaning the exterior and made a real screw up?
I've thought of two possible reasons why this might have happened.

1. Someone completely unfamiliar with Victor's custom finishes may have thought that they were undoing some after market job.

2. The finish was so badly damaged that someone figured that this was actually an improvement.

Other than that, I can't figure out why this would happen.

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Re: Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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Re: Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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Pay the $250 for a VV-XII and finish the stripping job or refinish the whole thing.
Stripping could have been done 50 years ago judging from fading or bleaching.
Interior is deteriorated, outside must have been much worse.

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Re: Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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The interior is NOT deteriorated...it looks just fine. Who knows what the outside looked like before. Mine had some minor flaking of the lacquer itself, but the paint underneath is (and was) perfect.

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Re: Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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Covah wrote:Pay the $250 for a VV-XII and finish the stripping job or refinish the whole thing.
Stripping could have been done 50 years ago judging from fading or bleaching.
Interior is deteriorated, outside must have been much worse.

I doubt the stripping took place 50 years ago. In the late 50's and early 60's Victrolas like this were either stashed in barns or attics, being given to thrift stores, or just being tossed. Most people didn't think they were worth working on unless it was to gut them and turn them into liquor cabinets or something.

I don't understand why you think the interior is deteriorated. It looks all right in the photos.

With Victrolas, original finish counts a lot towards value. To take one with an art finish like this and to strip it down to the wood is to take a valuable antique and turn it into an interesting curio. I for one do not wish to complete the mangling that was begun on this machine.
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Re: Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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bbphonoguy wrote:doubt the stripping took place 50 years ago. In the late 50's and early 60's
This really is a shame....

I know it wasn't done in the 70's because it would look like this Columbia Period Model I picked up a few years ago......

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Re: Sometimes I don't Know What to Think

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maginter wrote:
bbphonoguy wrote:doubt the stripping took place 50 years ago. In the late 50's and early 60's
This really is a shame....

I know it wasn't done in the 70's because it would look like this Columbia Period Model I picked up a few years ago......
Wow. Did you ever restore that? If you did you should post it for our next "Featured Phonograph"

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