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Re: Need to confirm the current value of a Victor M rigid ar
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:39 pm
by blau28
Thank you Kevin for your kind answer.
Regards
Re: Need to confirm the current value of a Victor M rigid ar
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:45 pm
by gramophone-georg
blau28 wrote:My question was too simple. I only asked about a current price about a machine tthat I’m not acquainted because the 80 % of my collection are European machines (I live in Europe)
Most people inform me that the kindness is not common in this forum. Now I can confirm it. The last comment post “ This is a hobby. If you want to invest, try stocks “ sounds really rude.
I get where you are coming from- you don't want to overspend.
There are several issues at play here that make trying to estimate what the machine is worth damn near impossible without some photos at least:
1. These are very rare machines here in USA, let alone Europe. The rarer things get- the more important condition and originality really becomes.
2. Because of the current worldwide economic conditions, prices are quite fluid and have been plunging ever downward the last few years, especially with all the trade nonsense which caused Asia to stop buying. Only the rarest machines really have not been affected. This machine may or may not qualify, and again, in Europe it may- or may not- command a significant premium above highest values in USA.
3. These machines are likely rare enough that incorrect parts may escape detection by any but the MOST knowledgeable about them. Again, if you don't want to overspend, it's important that this be verified, and the only real way is through pics.
About the only suggestion I could make is to go through this and see if you can establish some sort of a benchmark value this way (I am assuming you have seen the machine or photos):
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Hope this helps and good luck. These are cool and historically important machines!
Re: Need to confirm the current value of a Victor M rigid ar
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:52 pm
by Curt A
One important part is the brass horn elbow... it it is missing, replaced, bent or damaged, it is extremely hard to find in good condition. Also, the correct Concert reproducer is another difficult and expensive part that is totally unique to this machine. I traded my rigid arm Victor M 10 years ago, or so for another machine valued at $2,800, if this helps. Since then, prices have fluctuated as George mentioned, so it is hard to place a value on one currently. What is the seller asking for the one you are considering?
Re: Need to confirm the current value of a Victor M rigid ar
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:49 am
by Crank_it_up
If you would have asked this question Pre-COVID I would agree $2500-3000 USD would be a good price. I recently posted a really nice Rigid Arm Monarch Jr for sale on the Yankee Trader for $2000 and have no interest in it other than requests for parts just in case I decide to part it out. I normally would not consider that option but ..,. Here is the link below. Good luck with your purchase. Rigid Arms are pretty rare, especially an all original one.
Joe
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