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Lah Ca wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:14 pm

The woman's look in that screen grab is priceless while the egg spurt just prattles on mansplaining, totally oblivious to the fact he just shot his credibility all to hell. Sums up my feelings on what I saw in that clip exactly.

I remember thinking that the Information Superhighway would make everyone so much smarter. Instead, it's become nothing but a carrier for meningitis stupidus bacterium. It HAS shown us that both Einstein and Forrest Gump were correct, though.

I finally understand why people want assault weapons.

Lah Ca wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:00 am
Hmmm ... I was wrong and totally unobservant. You can get all uneasy and anxious again.

The guy is actually playing the record with the reproducer on the wrong side of the record, the needle acting as a gouge ripping up shellac shavings.

I know from experience that people in the UK drive on the other side of the roads. I do not believe, however, that they generally play records on the other side.

Watch here. Oh, the horror!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09dfdbx

That demonstrates the level of ¨expertise¨ of these TV specialists ...

Even a superficial effort by the production team could have found someone with expertise in our field of collecting.
Some of these self styled "experts" are more interested in a television career than their chosen subject.

gramophone-georg wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:21 pm

Lah Ca wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:14 pm

The woman's look in that screen grab is priceless while the egg spurt just prattles on mansplaining, totally oblivious to the fact he just shot his credibility all to hell.

If I've taken nothing else away from this thread, it's the terms "egg spurt" and "mansplaining". Worth it!

Or X-spurt.
An "X" is a has-been and a spurt is a drip under pressure.

Stupid numpty. Even someone with the base knowledge of records would know you don't play a record in reverse! There are idiots everywhere. American and British TV is full of them, especially where so-called experts are concerned. It seems when we export crap TV we also export the necessity for the programs to be inhabited by "personalities" who talk crap and rarely, if ever, know their subject or get their basic facts right.

As for valuations, let's not go there......

Here's the response from AR UK, it's about what I expected:

Hi Jeff, thanks for your note, this item was filmed several years ago but I will raise the point about the positioning of the arm with our Miscellaneous team who may encounter these instruments in the future.
Yours,
Robert

The Xpert seems to be on an age group that definitely knows and used modern record players, so no excuse for the incorrect positioning of the tonearm. The lady probably looks so sad because the guy just destroyed one of the records she brought in.

Andreas

I would rather say that the opposite is true. People not old enough to be familiar with gramophones but old enough to be confident with modern or hi-fi record players have a very hard time to figure out that the arm has to travel aaaaaaall the way to the other side of the record with a wider than 90° swing. In all modern/contemporary turntables the arm sits very close to the edge of the record over which the pick up has to be placed, it's a few degrees swing; no one would even dream of swinging a modern tonearm all across the record and over the spindle in order to place the pickup on the opposite site. With most arms, said swing is mechanically blocked by pivot design and the arm can't cross the spindle at all, or however in many cases the auto-stop would engage.

This said, if gramophones are dealt with by a "miscellaneous team", perhaps they should't handle gramophones at all: it's specialist stuff.