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CarlosV wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:59 am

Steve wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:58 am
Are we decided if its definitely a "Junior"?

It is odd that the bell is not completely round, as the Expert horn normally has a metal ring at the rim that keeps the round shape.

Is it possible that the horn has been "trimmed", thereby removing the reinforcing ring and making its current size a mystery?

poodling around wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:42 pm Maybe it will sell quite cheaply as there may not be an EMG soundbox ? Does it have a droopy horn / horn wilt ?

If you are the only bidder it could be yours for 99 pence ? Sadly no make an offer button

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225528911604 ... R7Kn7YzwYQ

It is a nice EMGinn Expert Junior. If you don't have one yet, you should get it.

JerryVan wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:43 am

CarlosV wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:59 am

Steve wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:58 am
Are we decided if its definitely a "Junior"?

It is odd that the bell is not completely round, as the Expert horn normally has a metal ring at the rim that keeps the round shape.

Is it possible that the horn has been "trimmed", thereby removing the reinforcing ring and making its current size a mystery?

No, it is not trimmed. I have a Senior and the end of the horn opening has the same figure.

Watanabehi wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:47 am

poodling around wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:42 pm Maybe it will sell quite cheaply as there may not be an EMG soundbox ? Does it have a droopy horn / horn wilt ?

If you are the only bidder it could be yours for 99 pence ? Sadly no make an offer button

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225528911604 ... R7Kn7YzwYQ

It is a nice EMGinn Expert Junior. If you don't have one yet, you should get it.

Yes, they are rather nice.

One day my Prince will come.

I suspect that the horn rim has been damaged, and that someone removed the damaged area by shortening the bell rather than attempting a repair. Reinstating the missing rim section would be difficult but not impossible.

The case is the same design as an Expert Minor that I had, except mine was in mahogany. I'm increasingly inclined to believe it's a Minor.

It's an Expert Minor, definitely not a Junior. The tonearm base being in the right hand rear corner confirms that. (Junior = middle of the right hand side; Senior = front right hand corner.) 18" final diameter horn.

Garret wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:28 pm The case is the same design as an Expert Minor that I had, except mine was in mahogany. I'm increasingly inclined to believe it's a Minor.

I agree with Garret. It is Minor. The horn is too small for Junior.

Orchorsol wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:43 pm It's an Expert Minor, definitely not a Junior. The tonearm base being in the right hand rear corner confirms that. (Junior = middle of the right hand side; Senior = front right hand corner.) 18" final diameter horn.

That's quite perceptive, Andy! The tonearm positions differ, as I checked both Junior and Senior I have. I am still puzzled about the horn, that seems as large as the Junior's, but it could be due to the perspective of the photos. Or, as Roger speculated, it could be a cut out Junior horn.

CarlosV wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:57 am

Orchorsol wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:43 pm It's an Expert Minor, definitely not a Junior. The tonearm base being in the right hand rear corner confirms that. (Junior = middle of the right hand side; Senior = front right hand corner.) 18" final diameter horn.

That's quite perceptive, Andy! The tonearm positions differ, as I checked both Junior and Senior I have. I am still puzzled about the horn, that seems as large as the Junior's, but it could be due to the perspective of the photos. Or, as Roger speculated, it could be a cut out Junior horn.

I agree with you, Carlos. It's the perspective of the photos that I struggle with. In some photos the horn looks much bigger than others. I originally thought it was a Minor due to the tone-arm position and the picture looking straight on into the bell but when I looked at the pictures showing the horn from the side, it looks much bigger than the only Minor I've ever seen - the one currently in the custody of the Midlands Group of CLPGS.