HMV Model 2 (Germany), horn challenge

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Yes, I understood you meant the best idea would be to leave the inner section Marco, and re do the outer section. :)
I am not good neither with metal sheet bending, soldering, nor painting :roll: I have never tried it, and also I have no experience with mixing colors. There is also a (big) challenge with the relieff patten on the outer section... :ugeek:
I know it sounds strange how everything works here, when living in rural areas in southern Europe, UK or somewhere in the States.
It really is very scarcely populated outside Oslo, which we regard as a big city with its 700 000 citizen. :lol:
A machine like this, even with a repaired horn, would not sell for more than 500-800 Euro here, if being lucky.
Last year a huge coin operated Parlophone is splendid condition went for 450 Euro on a private auction, I had it in my car in the passenger seat, while transporting it for another collector...

I will think closely on what to do here, since I also have quite a few other machines waiting for service...

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Maybe try to contact Pedrofono in Spain. He is quite good with intricate restoration work without over- restoring from what i have seen.
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I'd almost leave it as is. Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing, especially if that something is irreversible, like JB-weld.

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If it were mine, I'd be happy to use it as is.

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George: Thanks for suggestingm Pedro in Spain, again unfortunately it will be extremely expensive because of taxes and VAT, and extreme shipping costs between Norway and continental Europe, thinking of size of horn etc.

Garret and Jerry: I have been sleeping on it two nights, and this is also what I have been more and more inclined to do. Leave it as it is.
It is something about the fact that this the rust of the horn is part of it's history, and repairing the horn in a modern way will not make the gramophone look better really, and well...the gramophone is over 100 years old, and it will not harm the sound from the machine. If I wax it, and keep the gramophone in a dry environment I expect it will not deteriorate further.

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Just don't wax any rusted or corroded areas which are missing paint - the wax will dry white and be very obvious. If you can find WD-40, it will restore the sheen to your paint without harming it, similar to wax but without the dry white look.

Your question about JB Weld is that it is a two part epoxy putty which can be used to repair missing pieces and hardens like steel. Any good epoxy putty would work just as well - don't use plaster, it won't stick...
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Re: HMV Model 2 (Germany), horn challenge

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Thank you Curt, for your good replies and suggestions. I actually often use WD-40 pretty often when cleansing gramophone motors, but have never applied it to horns. I yesterday applied it to the rusty parts according to your suggestions, and it looks good. I think I will apply it to the rest of the horn too, since there are small rusty spots all over really, instead of using wax on rust free spots. :)
Thank you also for your reply on JB Weld, even if I decide(d) not to do anything with this particular horn, JB Weld can in the future be used for a different project.

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