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JerryVan wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:15 pm Your skipping problem is here. In the playing position, there should be a gap between the lift tongue and the lever. Yours has the tongue laying against the lever, preventing the reproducer from lowering enough to fully engage with the cylinder. Try carefully bending the tongue upwards, towards the reproducer and away from the lever. In the direction shown by the arrow. It won't need much bending, just enough so that the tongue does not touch the lever while playing.

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The wow and flutter is an unrelated issue, having to do with your governor spring issue.

AmberolaAndy wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:56 pm

So is it supposed to be like this? When I have it like this the reproducer has no side play and has that dragging issue still.

JerryVan wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:41 am

AmberolaAndy wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:56 pm

So is it supposed to be like this? When I have it like this the reproducer has no side play and has that dragging issue still.

No. The tongue is still laying on the lever. Here is mine while in the playing position. The gap does not have to be that large, but it needs to have a gap.

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Inigo wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:17 am Comparing the photos I see an enormous gap in the wrong one which does not exist in the other, as if the tongue part, the ring that goes around the reproducer conduit sits much lower in the wrong one. It looks like that ring could be pushed up along the conduit to rest against the knurled part with the set screw.

JerryVan wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:24 am

Inigo wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:17 am Comparing the photos I see an enormous gap in the wrong one which does not exist in the other, as if the tongue part, the ring that goes around the reproducer conduit sits much lower in the wrong one. It looks like that ring could be pushed up along the conduit to rest against the knurled part with the set screw.

Inigo,

Yes, if he could slide the ring/tongue towards the reproducer that would also help. It appears to be nicely soldered in place, however, so I figured a small bend would also suffice and would be an easier fix if he's not adept at soldering.

I also believe that the apparent difference in the location of my ring is exaggerated by the fact that the OP's reproducer does not slide on as far as mine does.

AmberolaAndy wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:57 pm
I cannot solder my way outta a wet paper bag. BUT I do have a parts machine! I can just do a swap.

JerryVan wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:07 pm

AmberolaAndy wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:57 pm
I cannot solder my way outta a wet paper bag. BUT I do have a parts machine! I can just do a swap.

Just grabbing the tongue from the side with a needle nose plier and giving it a slight bend will be way easier than swapping out the carriage. Your call, however.