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Re: Solid oak cylinder cabinet
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:36 pm
by phonogfp
FellowCollector wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:30 am
I could be wrong, but it looks like the Herzog 703 cabinet accommodates 25 cylinders per drawer (5 x 5) whereas the 702 model appears to accommodate 30 cylinders per drawer (6 x 5). Both models have 4 drawers and the cabinet design appears similar between them. My guess is that the subject cabinet is a Herzog 702.
Doug
Doug, I'm sure you're right about that cabinet being a 702. The grandkids were just arriving and I was in a rush!
Best,
George
Re: Solid oak cylinder cabinet
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:41 pm
by phonogfp
Shawn wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:46 am
And George, an interesting point. Is the "name" of a cabinet the manufacturer or the marketer? When sold by the Douglass Company, this was a "Perfection" cabinet. When sold (and presumably manufactured) by the Herzog Art Company, it was a Herzog. Much in the same way a Maytag washing machine is manufactured by Whirlpool in the same factory, with the same parts as a Whirlpool washing machine. But when sold, they are a Maytag, and a Whirlpool. Lots of other examples of this practice both today, and in 1906.
Shawn
I fully agree. Knowing that Herzog was a manufacturer, and having seen a few retailers selling Herzog cabinets under their own names, I tend to fall back to the manufacturer's name.
Your point about "Columbia cabinets" is right on the money. Columbia (and Edison) offered cabinets and other accessories in their catalogs which were manufactured by outside companies, but leading some to believe in "Columbia cabinets" and "Columbia horn cranes."
Best,
George
Re: Solid oak cylinder cabinet
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 12:06 pm
by JohnM
Should also point out that Columbia never made anything. They were the sales branch of a business partnership with the American Graphophone Company that was the manufacturing and patent-holding branch. American Graphophone Company never sold anything and Columbia Graphophone Company never made anything.
Re: Solid oak cylinder cabinet
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 12:47 pm
by phonogfp
JohnM wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 12:06 pm
Should also point out that Columbia never made anything. They were the sales branch of a business partnership with the American Graphophone Company that was the manufacturing and patent-holding branch. American Graphophone Company never sold anything and Columbia Graphophone Company never made anything.
Well, in the interests of precise communication, American Graphophone sold machines and records prior to its merging with the Columbia Phonograph Company in 1895.
While Columbia assumed sales of Graphophones after that time, Columbia was also a major producer of recordings, so to say that "Columbia Graphophone Company [which didn't exist until 1913] never made anything" isn't quite accurate.
George P.