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Re: Survival Rate of the Machines?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:18 am
by FloridaClay
How sad that picture is. I wonder if it may show the debris from a fire or flood in a store or warehouse.
Clay
Re: Survival Rate of the Machines?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:41 am
by phonogfp
This photo can be found on page 198 of Antique Phonograph Gadgets, Gizmos, and Gimmicks. At the bottom left corner, you can see the man (who is dropping an upright cabinet upside down) has a leg on each side of a stairway leading to a basement. Two men are below him, handing up the damaged merchandise. (To my eye, these look like Columbia Grafonolas.) The presence of hoses, and the wet, hosed-off condition of the bricked alley, along with the tables to the left holding salvaged mechanical bits of the machines, leads me to believe that this image captured the cleanup following a flood. (The photo is easier to see in the book.) My esteemed colleague wrote the caption for this, and we disagreed at the time about the circumstances, but that's my take, and I'd date this around 1920.
George P.
Re: Survival Rate of the Machines?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:52 am
by barnettrp21122
Here's a slightly better scan of the photo:
Thanks to George Paul for permission to post!
Bob
Re: Survival Rate of the Machines?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:43 pm
by phonogfp
This photo always reminds me of August 2, 1986. The town where we lived at the time experienced a flood, and we had 5 feet of water in our basement. My collection was upstairs - thank goodness - but there were 21 phonographs in the basement in various states of repair. The flood occurred on August 1, and the next day, our driveway looked much like this photo. What a nightmare...
George P.
Re: Survival Rate of the Machines?
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:40 pm
by De Soto Frank
Looks like flood victims to me... I see a LOT of bubbled veneer...
Sad scene indeed.
Re: Survival Rate of the Machines?
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:24 pm
by tomwil
1923VictorFan wrote:They made nice boxes and were of course excellent as firewood.
Speaking of firewood, old radios have no love also, especially at a recent radio show held in the east.

Re: Survival Rate of the Machines?
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:11 pm
by Lenoirstreetguy
George I think you're right about the 1920 date, judging from the clothes.
This pic reminds me of the department store story ( which I believe was Wannamakers) that I've told before. A friend of mine had a buddy who's Grandfather worked for the store in the early 'teens. It was decided to discontinue handling open horn machines, so after a final " all open horned machines must go!" sale, they stripped the mechanisms and tossed the cabinets and horns down the freight elevator shaft to be burnt in the boiler room. I suspect that story is far from unique.
Jim
Re: Survival Rate of the Machines?
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:47 pm
by Brad
Looking at the picture of all the phonos being junked reminds me that more that things change, the more they remain the same.....
Re: Survival Rate of the Machines?
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:55 pm
by SignatureSeriesOwner
There's an auction that I go to once a months, and the entire property is outlined in TV's that didn't sell. One in particular, is a 1955-1957 Westinghouse model, that I would have GLADLY bought for $2, but, it's been there for longer than I've been going. Shame.
Re: Survival Rate of the Machines?
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:07 am
by 1923VictorFan
I think the phonograph picture I saw was a different one but this one makes my heart skip a beat too. The TV photo is also really cool.
In fact, it reminds me of how I took advantage of the TV "situation" about 2-3 years ago after my 10 year old Sony Tube TV died. Seeing a great opportunity to insure my affordable TV watching future I went to 4 or 5 local pawn shops to see what digital, standard definiton, flat screen, tube TV's they had. I noted the makes, models, condition & sizes then went home to looked them all up online and find out their pros and cons. I returned to 2 of the shops the next day to wheel & deal. The Pawn Shops were "eager" to simply get rid of their tube TV's so I scored with two $10 purchases at one and a $20 purchase at the other. I have been using one of them (RCA Tru-Flat, 20F, energy star rated) since then. The other two I have carefully packed, labelled and stored in an indoor closet.
Hopefully I will never have to buy another tv as I don't care about having an expensive, paper thin tv so who knows...maybe my tv's will become collectors items in 50 years.