Opinions/Input on this Nipper

[Jerry B.]

Here are photos of both the last large paper mache Nipper as well as the large plastic Nipper. Note the pop rivets that attach the head to the body on the plastic Nipper.

Jerry

[fonograph]

Is this the same one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-4 ... SweRZc5rVU

[Jerry B.]

Is this the same one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-4 ... SweRZc5rVU

Yes, I am positive. Compare the damage over Nipper's left eye on the Ebay Nipper and the one on the first page of this thread. Can someone attach some of the photos of the Ebay Nipper including the one showing the rivets on the back of the head?

Thanks, Jerry

[electrolaman 64]

So I am going to totally agree with Jerry B. on this Nipper.

It looks to me that it is a a minimum a original compressed fiber resin Stensgaard made Nipper from the 1960s that has been mounted on a disk that someone added the lettering to. Then it appears to me the entire thing, Nipper and turntable had a plaster and paper film over to make it look like paper mache'. Or it could also be a later Tempo Products 1965-66 or later Trilogy Plastics (1960s- 2003) with the same fooling around done to it. The way to find out which would be to measure the height of Nipper by itself. If it is 33 ½" tall it is a 1960s Stensgaard, if it is 34" it is a Tempo products or if 36" it is Trilogy Plastics.

So is the Nipper real? Yes, as far as it is a 1960s on Nipper. Everything else someone has done to it at some point in time. Obviously since the 1960s. So it was never a Victor Talking Machine product, No. It was a RCA Victor Product.

I have been to the past 3 Stanton Phonograph Auctions and there have been a number of larger Nipper sell. The Plastic 36" Nippers generally have sold for $440.00 - $550.00.


Carlton Smith
electrolman 64
Indianapolis, IN

[LShaped]

You guys are AMAZING!!!!! such Sherlock Holmes!!!

Is this the same one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-4 ... SweRZc5rVU

this is the same Nnipper...being sold by the same person im talking to about the pics i posted.

[LShaped]

My opinion... I looked at all the photos. The only Nipper that I've seen with pop rivets at the back of the head is the large plastic Nipper. This Nipper has pop rivets to hold the head to the body. A plastic Nipper that gets a great deal of UV light tends to develop tiny fracture lines over the entire area that is in the sun. Later Nippers like the last of the paper mache ones to the plastic ones look bulkier than the earlier Nippers. Take another look at the collar. It looks like it's too tight. This Nipper looks even bulkier than my big plastic Nipper. This Nipper does not have factory paint. The features, particularly the eyes, are poorly done. I believe this fairly modern Nipper was in poor condition due to UV light damage. I believe he was covered with a fairly thin layer of something to cover the damage. The result is an extra bulky Nipper. After this was done, he was repainted.

Is the base original? Has Nipper been attached to the base for a long time? It's quite possible that this post 1980s Nipper was on that base and used as a window display in a store but not in the 30s or 40s. I would explain UV damage if I am correct. But I am skeptical.

About two years ago there was a thread on our Forum that featured a rotating display. The top of the display featured "Victor Talking Machine" information. But the crank coming out of the slow motion spring wound display was not a Victor crank. Don't you suppose Victor would have provided a Victor spring motor in such a display if it was a genuine Victor endorsed display? Can someone find that thread so we could compare the two?

I would like to think this is a genuine Nipper display piece that has been this way since it was originally built. But I think it's an intentional attempt at a fantasy item. Once again... my opinion.

Jerry Blais

truly appreciate the time you took for this write up. ty

[JerryVan]

If you look closely at the paint(?) flakes along Nipper's spine you can see what looks like the plastic peeking out underneath.

[LShaped]

Is this the same one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-4 ... SweRZc5rVU

Yes, I am positive. Compare the damage over Nipper's left eye on the Ebay Nipper and the one on the first page of this thread. Can someone attach some of the photos of the Ebay Nipper including the one showing the rivets on the back of the head?

Thanks, Jerry

here ya go...

[LShaped]

So I am going to totally agree with Jerry B. on this Nipper.

It looks to me that it is a a minimum a original compressed fiber resin Stensgaard made Nipper from the 1960s that has been mounted on a disk that someone added the lettering to. Then it appears to me the entire thing, Nipper and turntable had a plaster and paper film over to make it look like paper mache'. Or it could also be a later Tempo Products 1965-66 or later Trilogy Plastics (1960s- 2003) with the same fooling around done to it. The way to find out which would be to measure the height of Nipper by itself. If it is 33 ½" tall it is a 1960s Stensgaard, if it is 34" it is a Tempo products or if 36" it is Trilogy Plastics.

So is the Nipper real? Yes, as far as it is a 1960s on Nipper. Everything else someone has done to it at some point in time. Obviously since the 1960s. So it was never a Victor Talking Machine product, No. It was a RCA Victor Product.

I have been to the past 3 Stanton Phonograph Auctions and there have been a number of larger Nipper sell. The Plastic 36" Nippers generally have sold for $440.00 - $550.00.


Carlton Smith
electrolman 64
Indianapolis, IN

TYVM!