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Steve wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:42 am As much as I want a teak 102 I'm not tempted by this one. I asked for some extra photos of the case as I was busy wringing by hands trying to decide if I could spruce it up a little and if it was therefore worth going for. The seller has been very helpful and provided photos but the set down side of the case is really not pretty; it is very badly scratched, as is the lock side of the case. Many scratches appear quite deep too which means refinishing the cabinet will be a challenge and never entirely successful.

Hopefully it will go to someone who will appreciate it in all its battered glory (not deep fried ) but that person isn't me. I already have an oak 100, pristine teak 100, 112, 113 and 114. I also have 2 teak 101s, one very good and the other - with a solid, not panelled case and side wind - a "project machine", so this is one more project too many for me.

poodling around wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:43 am

Steve wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:42 am As much as I want a teak 102 I'm not tempted by this one. I asked for some extra photos of the case as I was busy wringing by hands trying to decide if I could spruce it up a little and if it was therefore worth going for. The seller has been very helpful and provided photos but the set down side of the case is really not pretty; it is very badly scratched, as is the lock side of the case. Many scratches appear quite deep too which means refinishing the cabinet will be a challenge and never entirely successful.

Hopefully it will go to someone who will appreciate it in all its battered glory (not deep fried ) but that person isn't me. I already have an oak 100, pristine teak 100, 112, 113 and 114. I also have 2 teak 101s, one very good and the other - with a solid, not panelled case and side wind - a "project machine", so this is one more project too many for me.

From my perspective I would certainly keep it as it is.

The old debate of course, 'to renovate or not to renovate'.

It's a good thing I think this though, as with my skills attempting renovation would be pointless

Steve wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:54 am

poodling around wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:43 am

Steve wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:42 am As much as I want a teak 102 I'm not tempted by this one. I asked for some extra photos of the case as I was busy wringing by hands trying to decide if I could spruce it up a little and if it was therefore worth going for. The seller has been very helpful and provided photos but the set down side of the case is really not pretty; it is very badly scratched, as is the lock side of the case. Many scratches appear quite deep too which means refinishing the cabinet will be a challenge and never entirely successful.

Hopefully it will go to someone who will appreciate it in all its battered glory (not deep fried ) but that person isn't me. I already have an oak 100, pristine teak 100, 112, 113 and 114. I also have 2 teak 101s, one very good and the other - with a solid, not panelled case and side wind - a "project machine", so this is one more project too many for me.

From my perspective I would certainly keep it as it is.

The old debate of course, 'to renovate or not to renovate'.

It's a good thing I think this though, as with my skills attempting renovation would be pointless

Irrespective of your particularly skill set, I've never seen anyone's work in refinishing which remotely resembles the original finish, even so-called skilled professional French polishers.

Steve wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:54 am

poodling around wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:43 am

Steve wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:42 am As much as I want a teak 102 I'm not tempted by this one. I asked for some extra photos of the case as I was busy wringing by hands trying to decide if I could spruce it up a little and if it was therefore worth going for. The seller has been very helpful and provided photos but the set down side of the case is really not pretty; it is very badly scratched, as is the lock side of the case. Many scratches appear quite deep too which means refinishing the cabinet will be a challenge and never entirely successful.

Hopefully it will go to someone who will appreciate it in all its battered glory (not deep fried ) but that person isn't me. I already have an oak 100, pristine teak 100, 112, 113 and 114. I also have 2 teak 101s, one very good and the other - with a solid, not panelled case and side wind - a "project machine", so this is one more project too many for me.

From my perspective I would certainly keep it as it is.

The old debate of course, 'to renovate or not to renovate'.

It's a good thing I think this though, as with my skills attempting renovation would be pointless

Irrespective of your particularly skill set, I've never seen anyone's work in refinishing which remotely resembles the original finish, even so-called skilled professional French polishers.

epigramophone wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:35 am The rectangular Ivorine plaque was introduced in 1936, incorporating a "B" prefix indicating the year of manufacture.
UK 102's from 1936 onwards have this plaque and prefix. The plaque on the machine under discussion does not have this prefix.
Indian made machines are a law unto themselves, so this anomaly may remain a mystery.

Steve wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:14 pm Yours for £355 and you were right, there is not much interest apparently, even now its ended.

Inigo wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:23 pm maybe i don't understand the question, but it's not a mystery to me... numbers prior to 1936 didn't have the B. So this one in eBay was made between 1931 and 1935 in the UK. isn't it?