The Paramount demonstration Phonograph = First thing built

[Freddyboy]

Can somebody tell me were this lid stay comes from (Patent number : 201701 )

Any help is appreciated

Here's the data on the patent number you provided:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=MYRAAAAAEBAJ&dq=201701



If this is actually the number you see, it obviously has nothing to do with the lid-stay, itself. I would guess it involves a component used in the lid-stay's manufacturing process.

Patent number ( 201701 )
The Putnam Nail company. Located in Dorchester
(Dorchester) is a neighborhood of Boston, Massachusetts, United States. It is named after the town of Dorchester in the English county of Dorset, from which Puritans emigrated

Puritan records were first printed by Paramount around 1918

The Garrard 1 motor was also fabricated in Willesden, London

1918 = At the end of the war, the workers returned to their previous jobs, and Garrard decided to continue to operate the company and they looked for consumer products to manufacture. They hired a young engineer, Mr. H.V.Slade, who became General Manager, who started the production of small lathes and boring tools. He had also seen a need for quality spring wound motors for the fast developing gramophone manufacturing industry. The first model, The Garrard Number 1 Spring Wound gramophone Motor was produced and sales quickly followed.

Garrard's first spring motor, called the Number 1, was a quality design having a cast iron mainframe with a thick baseplate, between which were supported two strong coil springs. With a full wind it would play three ten-inch or two twelve-inch diameter records.

The ratchet winding mechanism was virtually silent and the twelve-inch turntable was dnven at 78 rpm through gears. Its speed was controlled by a worm drive to a centrifugal govemor with three springs and bob weights, plus a sliding polished steel disc which was pulled on to felt pads as the governor springs rotated.


Here is a link to some pics of the Garrard 201 = Midle of page

http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/hfw/feature ... story.html

The simalaraties are striking

Anyways this is were I end my posting of the history of things
Im not looking to get my thread locked
Maybe the lidstay came off that machine
http://www.google.com/patents?id=MYRAAAAAEBAJ&dq=201701
Dunno seems strange

[gramophoneshane]

well there is no lid stay listed for that number in the USA, UK or worldwide data bases.
Perhaps it was just stamped wrong, or someones good at photoshop- I don't know, but the number does not come up for this item anywhere.

I thought you weren't going to post anything until you'd pulled the motor out (again) and had pictures?

[Freddyboy]

well there is no lid stay listed for that number in the USA, UK or worldwide data bases.
Perhaps it was just stamped wrong, or someones good at photoshop- I don't know, but the number does not come up for this item anywhere.

I thought you weren't going to post anything until you'd pulled the motor out (again) and had pictures?

Dont worry one day I will.
Man leave me alone
I just love reaserch and am looking for a little help. I have been nothing but nice here and at the other forum.
Thanks in advance for any help all

No the photo is not photoshoped. I wouldnt waiste my time on that and I never used that program
All my photos are taken with a sony cybershot 6.1

[Freddyboy]

Paramount records started in the Wisconsin chair factory wich was know for making very good school desks
They would of needed lidstays for them
There were only cast iron factories in Wisconsin around 1918
Is this lidstay castiron or a different metal made in england by the putman nail company?

[gramophoneshane]

Ill be taking the motor out to see if it is a Garrard 1 motor

I wont be posting till I have pics of it

This was your second post on the first page, yet we are up to 4 pages with the same old rot, and still no pictures of the motor.
So chill Mang!

I must say i find it hard to believe you are serious after watching some of you youtube video's.
I searched for your original "paramount documents" video, and found lots of video's like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmRn3Ov89g

[Freddyboy]

Ya my videos on youtube premote One love

Whats wrong. Boom de ya da = I love the whole world

That youtube video you posted is to get youtubers to look at my free electricity design in stupid videos to save the starving children of the world

Lets try and keep it to the Phonograph please

Can you guys help me with this?

[estott]

Well, I'm getting the feeling that this is all some kind of joke and you don't really care.

[bart1927]

Is it just me, or do others members have that strange feeling of deja vue?

[estott]

Is it just me, or do others members have that strange feeling of deja vue?

Yes, again- but this time with more videos.

[Freddyboy]

Look forget about the youtube videos
One love is the ultimate awnser. It is in all religions. No need to question that

Paramount Phonographs Operating Instructions Booklet

There are several line-drawing illustrations, including one showing the Universal Tone-Arm

Is this what I have on my machine? There is a screw to put any arm you want on it and the cup that holds the tone arm is custom made for this box. The tone arm head and neck seems to have been changed

Patent number on tone arm head = (311025) I think if I remember clearly. This is also an english part manufactured in 1932

http://s452.photobucket.com/albums/qq24 ... 2159-1.jpg

http://s452.photobucket.com/albums/qq24 ... 3462-1.jpg

http://s452.photobucket.com/albums/qq24 ... 2248-1.jpg


I just wanted help on those other questiones I asked because the piece interest me

I have done a lot of american history reaserch and it was fun. I will post a link to my historical journey in a .rar file soon in this post

I am not asking anymore questions
Thanks for all the help. So far I have seen some realy cool things about phonographs in this forum