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Re: HMV 102, the complete color range, the treasure trove !

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:08 am
by Steve
That's truly a magnificent horn. I guess it's 65cm diameter? I have a machine that needs that horn!

Re: HMV 102, the complete color range, the treasure trove !

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:26 am
by alang
Congratulations to your purchases. If it was me though, I would have left the portables well alone and went home with the coin operated Parlophone 8-) Something like that is and probably will stay on my bucket list forever.

Andreas

Re: HMV 102, the complete color range, the treasure trove !

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:34 am
by nostalgia
It is probably a 65 cm horn, yes. The seller says it is a huge gramophone, bigger than a DGAG Senior Monarch ( I believe) that also is sold.
Andreas, I was waiting for your apperance in the thread when this beauty came along :)

I did not know this Parlophone would come up for sale, when I bought the line of 102 portables, still...I don't regret it buying the portables, they are great..

Right now, I am honestly calculating my cash reserves...even if I should not even say it. I am trying to sell off some rather uninteresting Tandberg receivers to cover at least half the price of this beauty, IF I decide to put a bid on it. :? But I have no idea where I should put it, if I decide to put a bid....even my bed is occupied with the last DGAG horn machine bought back some weeks ago. I must make some major changes here, something have to go out the door, but it is very hard to decide what will leave...

Re: HMV 102, the complete color range, the treasure trove !

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:00 am
by Steve
nostalgia wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:34 am It is probably a 65 cm horn, yes. The seller says it is a huge gramophone, bigger than a DGAG Senior Monarch ( I believe) that also is sold.
Andreas, I was waiting for your apperance in the thread when this beauty came along :)

I did not know this Parlophone would come up for sale, when I bought the line of 102 portables, still...I don't regret it buying the portables, they are great..

Right now, I am honestly calculating my cash reserves...even if I should not even say it. I am trying to sell off some rather uninteresting Tandberg receivers to cover at least half the price of this beauty, IF I decide to put a bid on it. :? But I have no idea where I should put it, if I decide to put a bid....even my bed is occupied with the last DGAG horn machine bought back some weeks ago. I must make some major changes here, something have to go out the door, but it is very hard to decide what will leave...
You maybe? Just leave all your machines to the house and you go and live somewhere else! Its very selfish of you to take space away from your gramophones by insisting upon actually living there! ;) :lol: :roll:

Re: HMV 102, the complete color range, the treasure trove !

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:35 am
by poodling around
Steve wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:00 am
nostalgia wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:34 am It is probably a 65 cm horn, yes. The seller says it is a huge gramophone, bigger than a DGAG Senior Monarch ( I believe) that also is sold.
Andreas, I was waiting for your apperance in the thread when this beauty came along :)

I did not know this Parlophone would come up for sale, when I bought the line of 102 portables, still...I don't regret it buying the portables, they are great..

Right now, I am honestly calculating my cash reserves...even if I should not even say it. I am trying to sell off some rather uninteresting Tandberg receivers to cover at least half the price of this beauty, IF I decide to put a bid on it. :? But I have no idea where I should put it, if I decide to put a bid....even my bed is occupied with the last DGAG horn machine bought back some weeks ago. I must make some major changes here, something have to go out the door, but it is very hard to decide what will leave...
You maybe? Just leave all your machines to the house and you go and live somewhere else! Its very selfish of you to take space away from your gramophones by insisting upon actually living there! ;) :lol: :roll:
:lol: Brilliant !

Re: HMV 102, the complete color range, the treasure trove !

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:13 pm
by Phono48
nostalgia wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:34 am I must make some major changes here, something have to go out the door, but it is very hard to decide what will leave...
Ha! I've been saying that for years, but more keep coming in while very little goes out! Congratulations on getting those portables, they look beautiful. I have them all except the brown, but I'm not too bothered as I have the Colonial 114 in brown. As to the red leather version, no thanks. Enough said!

Barry

Re: HMV 102, the complete color range, the treasure trove !

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:34 am
by nostalgia
You maybe? Just leave all your machines to the house and you go and live somewhere else! Its very selfish of you to take space away from your gramophones by insisting upon actually living there
Comment of the year, Steve :lol:

Thanks for the greetings too Barry, nice to see you back, I almost started to worry since it had been so long since you had posted here.

Re: HMV 102, the complete color range, the treasure trove !

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:21 pm
by Steve
epigramophone wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:10 am I have all the six pictured, plus the red leather, the tropical teak, the French "Voix de son Maitre" in blue, the Columbia 9000 also in blue and the Columbia 206. Both Columbias are 102 clones, so in my view a 102 collection is incomplete without them.
I also have the Russian copy of the 102.
I am still looking for the German Electrola, the Italian "La Voce del Padrone" and the Spanish "Voz de Su Amo". There has been an Electrola 102 on eBay for several weeks, missing it's winding handle and record tray, which is grossly overpriced and therefore not selling. Does anyone know whether the Italian and Spanish versions ever existed, or am I wasting my time looking for them?

Although we have all seen from Martin's posts that gramophone prices are attractively cheap in Norway, I would expect a collection of six 102's in such good condition to attract interest from the UK and beyond. I would not attempt to speculate on their selling price.
The Spanish and Italian versions certainly do exist. I've seen at least one in Spain and there was an Italian 102 on Ebay this afternoon in Somerset of all places!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185857988156 ... R6b_6MLxYQ

Re: HMV 102, the complete color range, the treasure trove !

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:39 am
by epigramophone
For a machine which was said to be original and unrestored, this Italian 102 looked rather too shiny. At best overpolished. At worst overpainted. Much as I would like the Italian version I passed on this one.
Had it been an auction I would have arranged to view the machine in person prior to bidding, and if I liked what I saw I would have made an offer on the spot. Unfortunately it was a Buy it Now listing and sold in a matter of hours. Buy in haste, repent at leisure.

Re: HMV 102, the complete color range, the treasure trove !

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:08 am
by Steve
epigramophone wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:39 am For a machine which was said to be original and unrestored, this Italian 102 looked rather too shiny. At best overpolished. At worst overpainted. Much as I would like the Italian version I passed on this one.
Had it been an auction I would have arranged to view the machine in person prior to bidding, and if I liked what I saw I would have made an offer on the spot. Unfortunately it was a Buy it Now listing and sold in a matter of hours. Buy in haste, repent at leisure.
Good luck trying to buy directly from the auctioneers! I've tried it several times and some, if not all, it seems would rather not sell something than lower themselves to that level! :roll: Looking at the pictures of the Ebay 102, I think it might have been sprayed black to get it that shiny? It's still the only Italian 102 I've ever seen. I did spot a Spanish 102 in Spain, used as a bit of interior decor in a hotel (no surprise there!) but I've never seen one of those for sale either.

A couple of years ago there was a stunning looking 102 on Ebay with a Gramophone Company, Sydney decal in the lid. No one it seems had spotted the difference, not even the seller. I was tempted by that one but the condition troubled me. The outside was mint whilst the interior had visible signs of wear and use. There were various other inconsistencies which led me to believe it might have got soaked in sea water at some point, damaging the rexine which had possibly been re-covered, albeit professionally carried out.