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edisonphonoworks wrote:Sounds very good, how about the automatic reproducer?

I am actually searching for a Standard Speaker to complete the beast.

MicaMonster wrote:

edisonphonoworks wrote:Sounds very good, how about the automatic reproducer?

I am actually searching for a Standard Speaker to complete the beast.

I doubt that You will need to Standard Speaker. Antique picture from old Edison catalog shows Edison Home 'Clockwork' with two diaphragms: Early Automatic Reproducer and Early Recorder. I can assure You that Your Topworks - exactly Topworks from 'Clockwork'. My congratulations! But You will be extremely difficult to restore it to its original form. It features not only the Brass spring motor, is different size cover, all different wooden cabinet, not only by the drawer, als diferent corner joints, and size. I know. In my collection there are unmodified 'Clockwork'(ser. H 65), almost complete, included Automatic Reproducer (# 143088), and Recorder ( # 69279), and with the original finish. Since 1993 I can know which one was the one lost part. Maybe I found it on this forum. I take photos and add photos later.

alechorseman wrote:But You will be extremely difficult to restore it to its original form.

The idea of "original form" is out of place here. You cannot "restore" this sole frame to an authentic phonograph. It remains a product of fantasy. This is why the reconstruction permits large freedom of (technical) design.

alechorseman wrote:

MicaMonster wrote:

edisonphonoworks wrote:Sounds very good, how about the automatic reproducer?

I am actually searching for a Standard Speaker to complete the beast.

I doubt that You will need to Standard Speaker. Antique picture from old Edison catalog shows Edison Home 'Clockwork' with two diaphragms: Early Automatic Reproducer and Early Recorder. I can assure You that Your Topworks - exactly Topworks from 'Clockwork'. My congratulations! But You will be extremely difficult to restore it to its original form. It features not only the Brass spring motor, is different size cover, all different wooden cabinet, not only by the drawer, als diferent corner joints, and size. I know. In my collection there are unmodified 'Clockwork'(ser. H 65), almost complete, included Automatic Reproducer (# 143088), and Recorder ( # 69279), and with the original finish. Since 1993 I can know which one was the one lost part. Maybe I found it on this forum. I take photos and add photos later.

Does the #65 Home have the spoked pulley, side latches, and case with drawer, as in the cut? The only other picture I have seen is of Bill Kocher's example, #394, which has a solid pulley and conventional 'suitcase' case.

Bill

Does the #65 Home have the spoked pulley, side latches, and case with drawer, as in the cut? The only other picture I have seen is of Bill Kocher's example, #394, which has a solid pulley and conventional 'suitcase' case.

Bill

Yes, Large-sized spoked pulley, side latches with two hooks and case with drawer Dimensions: Lid - 15 ½ in. (39,2cm) x 7 in (17,8 cm) x 5 ½ in (14,0 cm); Bottom part of cabinet - 15 ½ in (39,2cm) x 7 in (17,8 cm) x 4 ¾ in (13 cm); wood base - 16 ½ in (42 cm) x 7 ¾ (20 cm). Here are some polaroids that you did not think that it's a scam, and pic of topworks with the serial No. After a few days i'll add good photos.
Alec.

Very nice! Did you find it in Russia?

You also have a nice collection of early Russian discs. I appreciate that you reproduce it with a contemporary gramophone. Which models do you have?

Lucius1958 wrote: The only other picture I have seen is of Bill Kocher's example, #394, which has a solid pulley and conventional 'suitcase' case.

Bill

In Discovering Antique Phonographs on pages 47 & 48 (Figs 2-17, 2-18, and 2-19) there are three photos of a pristine example of a clockwork Home (No.138). Two of the photos show details of its unique motor design.

George P.

Starkton wrote:Very nice! Did you find it in Russia?

I found it in the wilds But when I pay a ridiculously price $ 34, I did not know how it rare. The former owner sold to me 'The Old and Futile Edison Phonograph', and he thought that I paid too much.

You also have a nice collection of early Russian discs. I appreciate that you reproduce it with a contemporary gramophone. Which models do you have?

And World-Wide Italian and French singers too. Old disc Gramophones? Only three disc machines: mahogany 'Senior Monarch VII' Horn Gramophone, mahogonyzed 'Pathé' upright, and blue british portable 'Columbia 16-B'. I'm more interested in cylinder phonographs.