Need help identifying a Victor crank. Thanks!

[Jerry B.]

I am trying to identify the small crank in the photo. The large crank is from my Vic IV and the middle size crank is from my late large case Vic 1. The construction of all three cranks is identical. The distance from the knob to the bend is the same for both the big case Vic 1 and the unidentified crank. The unidentified crank came from a machine with the winding shaft that ended near the inside of the cabinet and the cabinet must have been a bit squatty. Does anyone have any ideas? Did any of the late small case Vic 1's have a threaded crank? Thanks for any help. Jerry Blais

[Henry]

Jerry, what's the O.D.of the top crank? It looks larger in your photos than the other two. If it's 5/16", as opposed to ¼", female, that would narrow it down a bit. I'm just looking in the Victor Data Book at the early Vics and the crank sizes listed there. HTH.

[JohnM]

Looks like the size crank for a Victrola XII, but it should be gold-plated if for a XII.

[Jerry B.]

The outside diameter of the small crank is the same as the other two and the thread pattern is the same. I did use this crank on a Victrola XII for many years. It did have a bit of gold from a rattle can and worked fine but the distance from the knob to the first bend was too short. I replaced it with a more appropriate crank and the little crank has been a spare. It must have been for a small machine that took a female threaded crank. Some of the inexpensive small horn machines were made well into the Victrola era and had features that were common to Victrolas. For example, I have a late Vic 0 with a thicker crank with male threads. I'd still appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, Jerry