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Do all Clark-Johnson soundboxes have a patent date stamped on the back side?
What about soundboxes on machine sold in Europe?
Is the lack of any markings on the back indication that the paticular soundbox is a reproduction?
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pappde
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- Clark-Johnson sondbox sold by the National Gramophone Company in the US
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Re: Clark-Johnson
I have never seen a unmarked "J". However, even repro's can be marked on the reverse. Some better than others. The two you show appear to be original. One is for the US market and the top one is for the UK & European market.
I have seen and own two variations that were for the US market.
I have seen and own two variations that were for the US market.
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Re: Clark-Johnson
I thought this thread was a great opportunity to add a very important piece of information regarding these Clark-Johnson reproducers. As many of us know, a Berliner trade-mark was reproduced in Japan in the late 1970's. To avoid the unscrupulous sale of parts from these machines, the makers has the foresight to stamp all the reproducers with the same serial number.
As time has passed these machines are now showing age. As expected.....parts off these machines are now on the market and being passed off as originals. Therefore if you see a "J" reproducer with number 18425 you know it's not old at all. Please note.....the one pictured is missing the needle screw.
As time has passed these machines are now showing age. As expected.....parts off these machines are now on the market and being passed off as originals. Therefore if you see a "J" reproducer with number 18425 you know it's not old at all. Please note.....the one pictured is missing the needle screw.
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Re: Clark-Johnson
But there might one legitimate original with that number!gramophone78 wrote:Therefore if you see a "J" reproducer with number 18425 you know it's not old at all.
George P.
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Re: Clark-Johnson
That's true. However, the odds would be 18424 to 1.....phonogfp wrote:But there might one legitimate original with that number!gramophone78 wrote:Therefore if you see a "J" reproducer with number 18425 you know it's not old at all.
George P.
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Re: Clark-Johnson
"Standard No.16464 and No.16464 both left the factory about January 1900. They were really cranking them out at that point.
George P."
I bet George will tell you that the odds are 16464 to 1......
George P."
I bet George will tell you that the odds are 16464 to 1......
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Re: Clark-Johnson
Okay - - I deserve that!Andersun wrote:"Standard No.16464 and No.16464 both left the factory about January 1900. They were really cranking them out at that point.
George P."
I bet George will tell you that the odds are 16464 to 1......
George P.