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Did Nipper ever sire any offspring?

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Nipper was born in 1884 in Bristol, England, and died in September 1895. It has been claimed in various sources that he was a Jack Russell Terrier, a Fox Terrier, or "part Bull Terrier". He was named Nipper because he would bite the backs of visitors' legs. Nipper originally lived with his owner, Mark Henry Barraud, in the Prince's Theatre where Barraud was a scenery designer. When Barraud died in 1887, his brothers Philip and Francis took care of the dog. Nipper himself died in 1895 and was buried in Kingston upon Thames in Clarence street in a small park surrounded by magnolia trees. As time progressed the area was built upon, and a branch of Lloyds TSB now occupies the site. On the wall of the bank, just inside the entrance, a brass plaque commemorates the terrier that lies beneath the building.
On 10 March 2010 a small road near to the dog's resting place in Kingston-upon-Thames was named Nipper Alley in commemoration of this resident.

In 1898, three years after Nipper’s death, Francis Barraud, his last owner and brother of his first owner, painted a picture of Nipper listening intently to a wind-up Edison-Bell cylinder phonograph. On February 11, 1899, Francis filed an application for copyright of his painting “Dog Looking At and Listening to a Phonograph.” Thinking the Edison-Bell Company located in New Jersey, USA, might find it useful, he presented it to James E. Hough, who promptly said, “Dogs don’t listen to phonographs.” On May 31, 1899, Barraud went to the Maiden Lane offices of The Gramophone Company with the intention of borrowing a brass horn to replace the original black horn on the painting. Manager William Barry Owen suggested that if the artist replaced the machine with a Berliner disc gramophone, the Company would buy the painting. A modified form of the painting became the successful trademark of Victor and HMV records, HMV music stores, and RCA. The trademark itself was registered by Berliner on July 10, 1900.

The slogan “His Master’s Voice”, along with the painting, was sold to The Gramophone Company for 100 pounds sterling. Francis Barraud said : “It is difficult to say how the idea came to me beyond that fact that it suddenly occurred to me that to have my dog listening to the phonograph, with an intelligent and rather puzzled expression, and call it “His Master’s Voice” would make an excellent subject. We had a phonograph and I often noticed how puzzled he was to make out where the voice came from. It certainly was the happiest thought I ever had.”

In the oil painting once kept in the EMI board room in Hayes, Middlesex, Nipper and the gramophone were depicted on a polished surface with a curved front - supposedly it was his master's coffin with the dog listening to the recorded voice of his dead master.

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briankeith wrote: In 1898, three years after Nipper’s death, Francis Barraud, his last owner and brother of his first owner, painted a picture of Nipper listening intently to a wind-up Edison-Bell cylinder phonograph. On February 11, 1899, Francis filed an application for copyright of his painting “Dog Looking At and Listening to a Phonograph.” Thinking the Edison-Bell Company located in New Jersey, USA, might find it useful...
Good old Wikipedia. The Edison machine is a "Commercial" model which is not spring-driven, but has an electric motor. And the Edison-Bell Company wasn't located in New Jersey!

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phonogfp wrote:[quote="briankeith"
In 1898, three years after Nipper’s death, Francis Barraud, his last owner and brother of his first owner, painted a picture of Nipper listening intently to a wind-up Edison-Bell cylinder phonograph. On February 11, 1899, Francis filed an application for copyright of his painting “Dog Looking At and Listening to a Phonograph.” Thinking the Edison-Bell Company located in New Jersey, USA, might find it useful...
George P.[/quote]
Good old Wikipedia. The Edison machine is a "Commercial" model which is not spring-driven, but has an electric motor. And the Edison-Bell Company wasn't located in New Jersey!




Man that is just the tip of the iceberg for errors. Buried in a park!!!.... :roll: :lol:. If you wish to know the history of Nipper. You may want to pick up a copy of this.... Mine was signed by Phillip Barraud. To answer the question asked....there is no documentation from any of the Barraud family stating that Nipper sired any offspring.
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I have long been under the impression that Mark Barraud was a successful portrait photographer.
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JohnM wrote:I have long been under the impression that Mark Barraud was a successful portrait photographer.
It was apparently Philip who was the photographer….

I recall an article in In the Groove, featuring a photograph of Nipper on the cover (possibly the very one which Charles used for the painting). An anecdote related there mentions how Philip had often taunted Nipper with a toy camel (a popular prop for children's portraits in the studio). One day, he had left Nipper in the studio for a while; when he got back, the camel had been torn to pieces…. :lol:

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Lucius1958 wrote:
JohnM wrote:I have long been under the impression that Mark Barraud was a successful portrait photographer.
It was apparently Philip who was the photographer….

I recall an article in In the Groove, featuring a photograph of Nipper on the cover (possibly the very one which Charles used for the painting). An anecdote related there mentions how Philip had often taunted Nipper with a toy camel (a popular prop for children's portraits in the studio). One day, he had left Nipper in the studio for a while; when he got back, the camel had been torn to pieces…. :lol:

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I'm not certain who Charles was. However, Francis Barraud submitted this photo of his late brothers dog Nipper to the copyright office along with the first image of Nipper with the Edison-Bell machine. As you can see, Nippers stance is a very familiar one to most of us. Funny he was actually facing the other way.... ;).
He had a stroke and lost the use of his hind legs. By the way......Nipper was buried under (or near) a "Mulberry" tree not Magnolia trees.... :lol:
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gramophone78 wrote:
Lucius1958 wrote:
JohnM wrote:I have long been under the impression that Mark Barraud was a successful portrait photographer.
It was apparently Philip who was the photographer….

I recall an article in In the Groove, featuring a photograph of Nipper on the cover (possibly the very one which Charles used for the painting). An anecdote related there mentions how Philip had often taunted Nipper with a toy camel (a popular prop for children's portraits in the studio). One day, he had left Nipper in the studio for a while; when he got back, the camel had been torn to pieces…. :lol:

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I'm not certain who Charles was. However, Frances Barraud submitted this photo of his late brothers dog Nipper to the copyright office along with the first image of Nipper with the Edison-Bell machine. As you can see, Nippers stance is a very familiar one to most of us. Funny he was actually facing the other way.... ;).
He had a stroke and lost the use of his hind legs. By the way......Nipper was buried under (or near) a "Mulberry" tree not Magnolia trees.... :lol:
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'Francis' is the masculine spelling; 'Frances' is the feminine spelling.
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OK, so where is our poor little Nipper really buried? Hopefully not under a big bank building :( Is there a marker at his grave? (from a Jack Russell dog lover)

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